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To: Machaon who wrote (7101)	5/6/1999 5:09:00 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 17770

"But, alas, gifted leaders only come along once every hundred years."--- Then we have had more than our quota with FDR and Reagan, and the Brits similarly with Churchill and Thatcher. I guess Clinton and Blair can't help but to be bumblers:-)....

To: Machaon who wrote (7101)	5/6/1999 5:17:00 PM
From: Neocon	Respond to of 17770

An update on "pre-negotiations": SEVEN 'GENERAL PRINCIPLES' The ministers worked out these "general principles" for Kosovo: • "Immediate and verifiable end of violence and repression in Kosovo; • "Withdrawal from Kosovo of military, police and paramilitary forces; • "Deployment in Kosovo of effective international civil and security presences, endorsed and adopted by the United Nations, capable of guaranteeing the achievement of the common objectives; • "Establishment of an interim administration for Kosovo to be decided by the Security Council of the United Nations to ensure conditions for a peaceful and normal life for all inhabitants in Kosovo; • "The safe and free return of all refugees and displaced persons and unimpeded access to Kosovo by humanitarian aid organizations; • "A political process towards the establishment of an interim political framework agreement providing for a substantial self-government for Kosovo, taking full account of the Rambouillet accords and the principles of sovereignty and territorial integrity of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and the other countries of the region, and the demilitarization of the UCK (Kosovo Liberation Army); • "Comprehensive approach to the economic development and stabilization of the crisis region."

To: Machaon who wrote (7101)	5/6/1999 5:44:00 PM
From: Bill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 17770

a criminally insane leader who wouldn't flinch at killing hundreds of thousands of innocent families Oh? Hundreds of thousands of innocent families would equate to roughly a million people. Where is the proof that Milo has killed a million people? Last I heard, the death toll in Kosovo was about five thousand.

To: Machaon who wrote (7101)	5/7/1999 3:07:00 AM
From: Andy Thomas	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 17770

>>Waco reminds me of Kosovo. The FBI and ATF did not expect Koresh to be insane enough to burn his own children, and himself, to death, even though he had preached that philosophy.<< Gee you're on "full spin," eh? The people who took Koresh out were just jealous that he had so many women to himself. He had the ideal situtation for men: a bunch of other men swearing off sex with their wives, doing chores around the place, and letting him have all the sex. They were all in it consensually. The average number of guns per person was less at the WACO "compound" than the average for the state of Texas, something like 1.5 guns per Branch Davidian and 4 guns on average per Texan. Let's face it: The government - any government - doesn't like cults with guns, even if those "wacos" stick to themselves and don't hurt anyone. The government officials can't stand the idea that some people would follow a private citizen - and love and obey him - instead of loving and serving the government, as we've all been so faithfully taught to do in our public schools. FWIW Andy