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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (80514)5/6/1999 7:36:00 PM
From: Scumbria  Respond to of 186894
 
Ten,

PII is dead. Intel is getting rid of it as quickly as it can. It's slower than Celeron. RIP.

Scumbria



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (80514)5/6/1999 7:51:00 PM
From: kash johal  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
Tench,

Re: "PII---Why isn't the Celeron killing off the Pentium II? If Celeron is damaging Intel's pricing structure as we know it, then how come the Pentium II isn't affected?"

Tench, the PII 400 isn't even being manufactured anymore and if it is it is in low volumes. And the buyers will be corporations who have "qualified" a PII 400 and want more.

To a certain extent that happened with the ole Pentiums when MMX came out. All the consumers shifted right away but businessess were still demamnding regular Pentiums for a few quarters.

My suspicion is that since the Celeron 466 came out it has pressured the demand for PIII 450's.

If you look at folks like CPQ,Dell,GTW they all seem to push the faster CPU in each segment.

So the 466 Celery's and 500 PIII's are selling very well - perhaps too well causing reduced demand for Celeron 400's and below and the PIII 450's.

In the past Intel has simply switched the marking as demand has gone up within the Celeron space as we all know most of the parts worked fine at highest speeds. If Intels process is good enough to where most parts yield at 466-500Mhz then this is no big deal.

However if at these speeds the device speeds are marginal then this is a major problem for Intel. If their bin yields are 50% 433 and below for example you can see how ASP's can get trashed this quarter in the Celeron space.

Regards,

Kash