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To: Jenna who wrote (38877)5/8/1999 11:38:00 PM
From: Adelle  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 120523
 
Another subject that analysts like to manipulate the masses with: Inflation.
See the debate between Levy and Ryding in this article.

cbs.marketwatch.com



To: Jenna who wrote (38877)5/8/1999 11:38:00 PM
From: Susan G  Respond to of 120523
 
Jenna, great post. Thank you.

I share your opinion.

Happy Mother's day!
Susan



To: Jenna who wrote (38877)5/8/1999 11:55:00 PM
From: Sosmartinov  Respond to of 120523
 
Jenna...on the ANALyst issue I agree completely. What to do except wait them out will take some thought.....in the meantime I put what money I can in "beaten down stocks with good fundamentals"..I heard that somewhere credible.



To: Jenna who wrote (38877)5/8/1999 11:56:00 PM
From: kha vu  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 120523
 
EP May 14 #1: High lites

- will release Q1 results at 9:00 AM on Monday 5/17 with a call at
1:00 PM.

- Company will announce April subscriber exceed 100 K for the seventh month in a row
- Q1 EPS at a loss of -$2.75
- With current rate of subscriber, expected EPS of nearly $12 by 2002. Target of $142 by end of 1999.

=====================================================

Market value: $4,669
Book value $8.62
Price/book ratio 10.8
Brokers covering: 9
Shares outstanding 50 m
Institution 69.4%
rated long term buy



To: Jenna who wrote (38877)5/9/1999 1:19:00 AM
From: jeer  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 120523
 
on overvaluation, analysts, etc: ive given it a lot of thought over the past months, and as much as i wish it were different, my take is: we are compressing the gaps between classes of stocks now evolving to embrace the net future, either as their core business, or as a new way to execute their current business, and it's a natural process, not manipulation. by compressing, i mean coming to terms with meaningful comparisons among players, and the T showing of the past week seems to help confirm that. AOL has been called the top blue-chip internet, and it is. more traditional blue-chips, such as T, IBM, etc. have, and will move up in stature and price as they are seen moving successfully into this next economy. what also must happen in this environment is a relative price consolidation. run-away valuations will not last forever on a wide scale. they will continue to exist for a good while, imo, but what we are seeing and reacting to is the beginning of this price consolidation. so, if T develops/buys significant content, gathers up 18m aol-type customers of their own, and has the network to make it perform, what should they be worth? should we apply the aol p/e, and multiply T's values by 7 or 8? if aol doesnt earn more than 1.00/yr over the next 5 years (due to buying into/developing a network, expansion costs etc.), should their price be maintained as the top dog? what we will see, i believe is a movement towards the middle. considering the markets reactions to "pure price", ie, not to absolute concerns over finely calculated p/e's, my guess is that T and others will gain on the upside, and AOL, YHOO, ATHM, etc will, and must, move down. the question is how far, how fast, for both sides. certainly, if the FCC were to disallow the MediaOne purchase, T will fall, and AOL will soar. and this happens not on value, but on relative comparison of positional threat to a market niche. AOL's niche is now threatened, to a degree, at minimum in terms of their margins, which will erode if they are made to pay dearly for the assumed need to provide broadband access on a wide scale. new "price magnets" are being established, and for better or worse, companies like AOL, AMZN, etc will begin to move more in relation to the emerging players in their field. anybody see BKS at 150? i dont....icons are great, and have their place, but change is afoot.

the real question here may be how this style of market has boosted the street's returns, and how willing are "they" to let that aspect go by driving prices down and minimizing volatility? i believe theyll keep it going as long as possible, but along the way, more consolidation must occur.

anyway, sorry for the rambling, and good luck to all.



To: Jenna who wrote (38877)5/9/1999 2:34:00 AM
From: jfhh  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 120523
 
"how much longer are we are going to be led around with a leash by analysts and columnists who unfortunately wield a giant influence on market sentiment. I don't know what we can do to neutralize their influence, if anything."

Jenna, Adelle, Susan G.:

I think the only way is to keep doing what you are already doing, that is, to keep the thread posted as to analysts views and leading publications articles on major stocks and trends. Mr.'s Bogle and Buffet made their views on analysts quite clear this past week. Suffice it to say that while noone is going to argue that position, analysts themselves justify their opinions and their jobs by changing their recommendations. My friends are convinced that those changes themselves are some sort of manipulation. It can't be proved so I won't claim that it is. I only complain when a stock upgrade leads to a very s-t bump up and a longer term move down and the opposite on a downgrade. Of course it only happens to the ones I buy!

The articles are simply written to sell copy? Too easy but too often the case. There is a well known Barron's Effect on Monday's and beyond. For that reason alone I was a religious reader each Saturday morning. Not so much now and that is why I appreciate the attention called to those articles in Barron's, Business Week, WSJ, IBD, etc. You three in particular have always done a good job of reporting those and other posts and opinions that exist - so much information is available now that it is impossible to track it all. I spend alot of time tracking various SI threads because of the balance and richness of the work available.

Just wanted to thank you and let you know your efforts are appreciated.



To: Jenna who wrote (38877)5/9/1999 10:05:00 AM
From: Tim Davies  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 120523
 
the bottom line is that .. do these companies have any value at all.
they remind me of the derivative market.. profitable both up and down , but without fundamental value.
tim



To: Jenna who wrote (38877)5/9/1999 10:54:00 AM
From: Lane Hall-Witt  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 120523
 
Great post, Jenna.

From a trader's standpoint, the thing to do with the analysts is just the same thing we do with the market in general: go with the flow. I welcome the volatility they create, because I can benefit from it far more than I do from a stable market. The analysts and their market manipulation are just another part of the game. And so long as the effects of their manipulation remain predictable, all the better for us. The keys, in my mind, are to be extremely nimble and to avoid fighting the trend.

I feel pretty certain that money is going to flood back into the tech and Net sectors sometime soon. Maybe not tomorrow or this week or even this month -- but before too long, the game will pick up again. I have my eyes on three signs:

(1) Late last week, institutional buying in the Nets and certain tech companies picked up considerably. Look at the institutional messages for YHOO or SEG last Friday, and you'll see the emerging trend in a rather extreme form. This was in marked contrast to the activity at the beginning of the week, which was much more ominous for the sector.

thomsoninvest.net

(2) The AMG data on money flows last week was stunning: stock mutual funds brought in $124 million, which is a miniscule figure, and money-market funds brought in a whopping $6.35 billion. Taxable bond funds attracted $515 million, and municipal bond funds drew $78 million. Overall, $7.067 billion came into the fund market, and of that 90 percent is now sitting in cash. That's unbelievable in a week that saw the Dow close above 11,000 for the first time and that saw an ongoing resurgence of several beaten-down sectors. What this tells me is that nobody is excited about the cyclicals or about other sectors in the old economy. In my view, that cash is sitting there waiting for the new economy to bottom and kick back into gear.

amgdata.com

(3) On this same subject of money flows, just reading around the SI trading threads gives a general impression that a lot of people are sitting principally in cash (or in highly liquid positions in other sectors) or are riding short positions. Again, I see this marking a waiting game, as we look for a bottom in the new economy.

I'm watching very closely for a reversal, but will not commit much money until an upward trend is clear. Making money in the market isn't about being a hero; it's about looking for places to put your money where you have overwhelming odds in your favor.