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To: O'Hara who wrote (25375)	5/9/1999 8:40:00 PM
From: Don Martini	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 39621

Dear Shalom, and Barney Shalom, you've given me a lot to work on. I thank you sincerely for writing, and will respond soon. The Catholic Encyclopedia once said persons in the trinity are Co-equal, Co-eternal, Consubstantial. [of the same substance] Are they divisible? Does any have greater power and authority? I say "the CE once said" as I read this in 1951 and their definition may have changed. Would you agree to this definition, and would any others on this thread further define the trinity for me as well as you can. TO BARNEY: It's fine for you to pray for me, and my "pride." Because I have a sincere different understanding of scripture than yourself does that mean I'm proud? What works would you have Christ break for me? Tho we aren't saved by works, but by Grace, James told us "Faith without works is dead and Christ illustrated the wicked slave as one who buried talents. Said Jesus: You are the light of the world ... and Peter do you love me? ... feed my sheep! [3 times!] The great commission applies to all Christians, including this poor sinner. Therefore I excepted a college scholarship to begin a lifetime of public witnessing, unpaid, untitled, asking for nothing but to bring God's refreshing Gospel of the Kingdom to anyone who would hear. Thousands of times I've been scolded from the door with sarcasm and insult, as Master said to expect. Matt 10:11-16. I grew up in the West, poor. My mother was a missionary. I expected to go to prison for my conviction that to kill is to sin. Thousands of my brothers in Germany/Russia/England/USA have paid this price, sometimes with their lives. I've sold businesses to devote my life to full time following Christ's footsteps. Have given money, food, shelter and medical care to complete strangers [once rushing a hippie to the hospital to birth a son; called the police, the ambulance, the hospital, pursued the siren thru town, paid for everything ... without asking her religion] ... and you call me proud. Jehovah has filled my hands, so I sponsor a non-religious charity to which my disabled wife devotes her life without begging, or selling anything, asking nothing back. [See dorway.com Her work is in several languages, she was on radio twice for an hour in NJ and TN in the last 2 days] I'm old. This consumes our retirement funds, [mother's nursing home bill is 40K] but I cannot bear knowing others would die if we didn't raise our voice. Which of these works do you pray Christ break, Barney? John 10:32 Works are rags, none buy salvation, the Gift of God by Christ's blood; however conscience demands I serve my neighbor as did the Samaritan. And you pray for my pride, Barney, please explain. I'll happily compare scriptures and understandings of God's Word, but not accept insults or insinuations; nor retort in kind; just exit. Without unjudgemental love the commands of my Master are ignored. You've not responded to any scriptural proof I've presented, I don't think you can Barney. If so, tell me who will die in New Earth as foretold in Isaiah 65:20? Perhaps many on this thread would rather talk to one another and drive off ones with sincere disagreement. That would be sad! Don Martini

To: O'Hara who wrote (25375)	5/14/1999 10:01:00 PM
From: PROLIFE	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

I know that at least ONE of shalom's favorite hymns is 'It is well with my soul'. Here is some interesting information about the author. Mr. Spafford and his family lived in Chicago. In 1873 , he sent his wife and four daughters on a European vacation trip with plans to join them a little later. His family sailed on the SS Ville due Havre, and on the trip across the ship was struck by another ship, and sank. Spafford's wife was the only surviving member of his family and when she reached Cardiff, Wales she sent this telegram, "Saved alone." Spafford sailed to meet her and on the trip across, supposedly near the site of the death of his daughters, he penned "It is well" Surely sorrows like sea billows did roll for Mr. Spafford, yet the sorrow was not the end of the poem. The other verses of his poem are words of GRACE, MERCY, and VICTORY. It Is Well With My Soul by Horatio G. Spafford, 1828-1888 When peace like a river attendeth my way, When sorrows like sea billows roll; Whatever my lot, Thou hast taught me to say, "It is well, it is well with my soul." It is well, It is well. It is well, it is well with my soul! Tho' Satan should buffet, tho' trials should come, Let this blest assurance control, That Christ has regarded my helpless estate, And has shed His own blood for my soul. It is well, It is well. It is well, it is well with my soul! My sin (Oh the bliss of this glorious thought) My sin, not in part, but the whole Is nailed to the cross, and I bear it no more, Praise the Lord, praise the Lord, O my soul! It is well, It is well. It is well, it is well with my soul! And, Lord, haste the day when the faith shall be sight, The clouds rolled back like a scroll, The trump shall resound and the Lord shall descend, "Even so" - it is well with my soul. It is well, It is well. It is well, it is well with my soul!

To: O'Hara who wrote (25375)	5/17/1999 11:29:00 AM
From: O'Hara	Respond to of 39621

†...And..... in earth shall declare...† Ancient of Days Blessing ~~and honor, glory and power Be unto the ancient ~~of Days From every ~~nation, all of creation Bow~~~ before the ancient of Days Every tongue in heaven~~ and earth Shall declare~~~ your glory Every ~~knee shall bow A your~~~ throne In worship~ You will be exalted O ~~God And ~~~your kingdom Shall not pass ~~away O ancient of Days~~ Your kingdom shall~~ reign Over~~~ all the earth Sing unto the ~~~ancient of Days For none can compare~~ To your ~~matchless worth~~ Sing unto the ancient of Days.!~~

To: O'Hara who wrote (25375)	5/17/1999 11:33:00 AM
From: O'Hara	Respond to of 39621

†... Honor the King of Glory...† Ps 24:1-10 1 The earth is the LORD's, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein. 2 For he hath founded it upon the seas, and established it upon the floods. 3 Who shall ascend into the hill of the LORD? or who shall stand in his holy place? 4 He that hath clean hands, and a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully. 5 He shall receive the blessing from the LORD, and righteousness from the God of his salvation. 6 This is the generation of them that seek him, that seek thy face, O Jacob. Selah. 7 Lift up your heads, O ye gates; and be ye lift up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in. 8 Who is this King of glory? The LORD strong and mighty, the LORD mighty in battle. 9 Lift up your heads, O ye gates; even lift them up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in. 10 Who is this King of glory? The LORD of hosts, he is the King of glory. Selah.

To: O'Hara who wrote (25375)	5/17/1999 11:39:00 AM
From: O'Hara	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 39621

†...“Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice.”...† — 1 Samuel 15:22 Saul had been commanded to slay utterly all the Amalekites and their cattle. Instead of doing so, he preserved the king, and suffered his people to take the best of the oxen and of the sheep. When called to account for this, he declared that he did it with a view of offering sacrifice to God; but Samuel met him at once with the assurance that sacrifices were no excuse for an act of direct rebellion. The sentence before us is worthy to be printed in letters of gold, and to be hung up before the eyes of the present idolatrous generation, who are very fond of the fineries of will-worship, but utterly neglect the laws of God. Be it ever in your remembrance, that to keep strictly in the path of your Saviour's command is better than any outward form of religion; and to hearken to his precept with an attentive ear is better than to bring the fat of rams, or any other precious thing to lay upon his altar. If you are failing to keep the least of Christ's commands to his disciples, I pray you be disobedient no longer. All the pretensions you make of attachment to your Master, and all the devout actions which you may perform, are no recompense for disobedience. “To obey,” even in the slightest and smallest thing, “is better than sacrifice,” however pompous. Talk not of Gregorian chants, sumptuous robes, incense, and banners; the first thing which God requires of his child is obedience; and though you should give your body to be burned, and all your goods to feed the poor, yet if you do not hearken to the Lord's precepts, all your formalities shall profit you nothing. It is a blessed thing to be teachable as a little child, but it is a much more blessed thing when one has been taught the lesson, to carry it out to the letter. How many adorn their temples and decorate their priests, but refuse to obey the word of the Lord! My soul, come not thou into their secret. Spurgeon, Charles H.