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To: Patrick Grinsell who wrote (12388)5/10/1999 12:29:00 PM
From: Peter S.  Respond to of 16960
 
The official line for the 3500 TV over the 3500 w/LCDfx is market conditions. Flat screens aren't as popular as the TV capability.

At least the 183MHz spec still stands.

Peter S



To: Patrick Grinsell who wrote (12388)5/10/1999 12:30:00 PM
From: Scott Garee  Respond to of 16960
 
I wonder when the OEM boards will ship, since they don't have to wait on TV drivers.

This is the card I really wanted. No TV out, no bundle, just a fast chip and fast memory. It should end up with an excellent online price.



To: Patrick Grinsell who wrote (12388)5/10/1999 1:07:00 PM
From: benwood  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 16960
 
I don't agree that this is bad news, I think it's excellent news. I had been thinking I'd get a V3-3000 or -2000 for my next computer in a few weeks, but now it's a no-brainer: I'll be getting the V3-3500TV.

The feature I've been wanting for the past couple of years is real-time MPEGII encoding, and this is the first reasonably priced board out there which has that capability (that I'm aware of anyway), and I'll get TV tuner and FM tuner plus absolute top-notch 3D performance, too.

When I can get a DVD recorder which can produce movie disks compatible with my dedicated movie player at a reasonable price, I'll be able to convert all my home movies to DVD. With my older video tapes already approaching their useable shelf life of 10-15 years, the sooner I can convert the better.



To: Patrick Grinsell who wrote (12388)5/10/1999 5:24:00 PM
From: Jeffrey P  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 16960
 
Pat Said..

The 3500 is really just hidden bad news...

Pat, I can't say that I agree with you. If it is hidden bad news (re: poor yields, problematic DFP support, etc) which I personally don't think is the case, they have done a WONDERFUL job of covering up.

They have taken a "nice" ad in like DFP support and replaced it with a feature set that will POSITIVELY turn heads in the oem and retail arena. Shoot, I was investing in 3dfx and bought a damn all-in-wonder for a system I was building just because of the features of the card. Matter of fact, I almost bought one last week to compliment my V3 3000 to gain multimonitor support. How many people have no clue about opengl/glide/rage/voodoo/nvidia have purchased an all-in-wonder just because it has: 2d, 3d (albiet slow but it says on the box... right here), and antiquated TV tuner technology? Add to that the people that know something about the market and but bought the damn card just cause there is no other option in this genre. (hauppage wintv card, one of the best TV cards for years, last time I looked was about $70-90, add that to the cost of a V3 and the speed increase over v3 3000 then figure in the "one card solution" factor and I think you have a winner.) I took a look at the STB desktop video solution and it looks like a nice product and have been questioning since the day the merger was announced why the 3500TV had yet to come about.

I really think this is the right move at the right time. Build it and they will come....

Message 9319572 (glad I didn't)

Jeff "I don't expect anything at E3 except v3500, anything else is gravy" P.

P.S. TNT2 ---> also dropped DFP support, kept price the same, and added NOTHING to the product. At least we added some goodies and retained price.