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To: Janice Shell who wrote (2341)5/10/1999 3:33:00 PM
From: Cindy Powell  Respond to of 3795
 
Janice...

I confront authority only if I can see some true good coming from my confrontation. Most of the time I understand and respect "authority," and have no desire to embroil myself in 'rebellions without a cause,' when I see no need to rock the boat.



To: Janice Shell who wrote (2341)5/10/1999 5:27:00 PM
From: Don Pueblo  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 3795
 
These 1st Amendment "rights" can be dangerously disrespectful.

Why argue with that person, Janice? No point! Anyone who thinks the First Amendment is in any way 'dangerous' is beneath my personal contempt.

Here's the deal as I see it: SI is run by its own rules. Anyone who has followed my posts knows how I feel about this. Last summer, I started a thread to have a guy banned from SI. The vote was solidly, solidly, in favor of what the majority of SI members considered free speech, regardless of their opinion of the dude and his ideas of 'truth' and 'justice'.

I respect that. It's a judgement call. Somebody has to make the judgement call. I see what I consider to be profanity, harassment, copyright violations, and personal attacks all the time on SI.

But I'm not making the call, so I live with the call that is made. If I don't like it, tough. I go by the call, or I go elsewhere. Simple.

A while back, some attorney used SI to serve some people. I remember at the time thinking it could be an interesting event; using the Internet to serve somebody in a legal proceeding.

So now, we have a group of people, world-wide, anonymous as to religion, skin color, and the rest of the old judgement standards, who are communicating on the Internet on what they consider to be their "own terms", (to whatever greater or lesser extent) and we have the potential for an attorney to jump in the middle of the party and start screaming "Foul! You will pay money!".

This is about right and wrong. If she can't tell the difference between right and wrong, that's pretty much the end of the argument.

This Internet thing, the Business Wire thing, the other stuff, it's all just the morality play of the 21st century. It's right and wrong. There is a right and a wrong here. It may not be crystal clear, it may not be easily defined, but it does exist. This is all about Right and Wrong. Good and Evil.

The people who think the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America is somehow 'dangerous' don't understand what they are saying. There is no reason to argue about it with them. They don't know why it's the First Amendment, why it is part of the Constitution of the United States, and they don't understand that without it, they could be thrown in jail or killed just for having that opinion and making it public.

The people who think that they can somehow bully me or my friends, wherever they are in the world, whatever their skin color, whatever they religious belief, or suppress my freedoms in this country by breaking the law or trying to argue that I don't have specific rights under the Constitution of the United States of America, are the lowest form of scum I can imagine. I think that is evil incarnate, right down there with pretending to hide behind the Constitution and doing evil crap.

People who hide behind what they claim are their "rights" and commit crimes, do evil deeds, and intend to cause pain, can kiss my ass, I'll fight them to my last breath. If that fits anyone that is reading this, if you are trying to hurt people just because you can afford it, or just because you don't think anyone will come after you, or because you don't want anyone to find out what you did, then you can kiss my ass, MF. You'll never, never win while I am breathing.

I'll say again: many people have died early and painful deaths so that the citizens in this country where we live can enjoy freedom.

Many people. Some of them I knew personally. Good people, ordinary people just like us, the only two differences really are that they are dead and I'm not, and they died defending my right to be free.

As a group, we may argue about the fine points. We may argue about how much somebody can hate Jews or Blacks or Muslims or Catholics or Italians or giant reptiles before he "violates the Terms of Use" or breaks the law, but we should remember that the argument is taking place because we have the right to argue about it, and that's the only reason it's taking place, and anybody who can't understand that should go somewhere else for a couple of days and try to survive like they survive here in the United States and see if things are different over there.

Because we have. And they are.