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To: Stormweaver who wrote (16306)	5/12/1999 1:07:00 AM
From: Charles Tutt	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 64865

How about YOU posting references for your assertion that JavaSoft is losing money? BTW, the studies showing TCO of PC's are pretty well known; I'm surprised you haven't encountered them. JMHO.

To: Stormweaver who wrote (16306)	5/12/1999 9:46:00 AM
From: paul	Respond to of 64865

"..That's a scary statement because we're saying there is no plan; nice tech but no $plan. Regardless of the licensees JavaSoft is losing money. " No, im saying that you certainly dont know the plan and im not privy to it either. But leave it to you to spin this ambiguity as negatively as possible. And since Sun doesnt break out the revenues of any of its operating units even to wall street analysts you just pulled $100 million out of thin air. James whats your real agenda? Your simple and monotonous comparisons of PC's vs. workstations were interesting to yourself perhaps but now you've moved on to making unfounded comments about Sun's financials - i thought you were just a disgrunted NT lan administrator but seems you have a whole agenda against Sun.

To: Stormweaver who wrote (16306)	5/12/1999 2:49:00 PM
From: Krishna A. Ubrani	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 64865

Javasoft maybe losing money TODAY. If you haven't noticed, it the rage in almost every enterprise development environment. It is (still, after 4 years) new and will take time to start making a profit. Sun has no alternative but to continue on Java's momentum in the industry (including embedded, hand held devices, nc's, set top boxes, etc.) Java is also making great headlines in improving performance with hotspot and many other vendors releasing jits (tower etc.) - the developer comminity loves the language; that is itself sufficient to ensure it will continue to be very popular. The number of jobs for java programmers in silicon valley is probably the highest of any category already. That should tell you something. If your reasoning is that javasoft is currently losing money and Sun should discontinue java, you are totally clueless. reg. NT's crashing all the time, I think it is blown out of proportion too. NTs (windows) are already the dominant desktop, but with pc prices falling and pc's on the way to becoming nothing more than internet appliances, the NC vision may be coming true; cheap pc's of the future will be essentially nc's. Sun does have serious issues to deal with at both the desktop and server but has been holding up very well so far, and will probably continue to do well as the overall demand for high end servers explodes due to internet traffic.