lml,
I'd like to comment on some of you points, and expand on them a bit.
Let's sidestep the VPN issue you brought up for a moment, and even demonstrate where such a consideration might be avoided in certain scenarios, or at least where some alternative approaches might be desirable on the parts of the cable operators.
"My understanding is that in order to get VoIP to work confidently it must be routed over a VPN to ensure priority in routing of smaller sized voice packets that get would otherwise be subordinated to routing of larger sized data packets. To me this means diminished QoS for the data portion of the network, which IMHO, is particularly vulnerable when we consider VoIP over shared HFC pipe, particularly the co-axial portion."
Granted, anytime you invoke QoS features for one class of service, by definition, you are limiting bandwidth and other resources to all other classes of service on the same facility, by some proportionate measure.
Voice, however, utilizes so little bandwidth, in comparison to the other modes of traffic you might be concerned with during Internet access, for example, so as to be virtually nonexistent in its weighting.
" I just think rollout of VoIP over HFC will be slow in coming. The cablecos & T will be careful not to kill the commonly perceived "goose that laid the golden-egg" - broadband access for data, though I personally believe this perception to be "fool's gold," preferring DSL & VDSL over the short & longer term, respectively."
In the meantime, I'm of the opinion that there already exists plenty of "head room" (required bandwidth) on most DSLs and HFCs to support VoIP in the last mile. It's the greater cloud coverage, and all of its moving parts in the middle, that still needs most of the work done for VoIP to be fully successful. OR, no additional work done at all in the middle, and more at the edge and the end points, depending on your perspective and which variant of I-phone you are philosophically aligned with.
Assuming that we are talking about the most popular version, VoIP using H.323, etc, even if prioritization methods must be used, it can be supported at this time. Explanation follows. -----
VoIP should not be considered exclusively as an end to end solution. Indeed, it isn't even being used that way (end to end) today, where it is commercially available through ITSP offerings of the phone to phone variety.
Where Phone to Phone ITSPs are concerned, only the mid spans at this time use VoIP transport protocols, and the remainder of the connection, on both sides, is switched.
Instead, VoIP is used as a means of substituting packets for traditional WAN voice channels. It substitutes the bandwidth-hogging PCM carrier coded voice channel which requires 64 kb/s, with that of a compressed voice algorithm encapsulated in IP, requiring of only between 5.x and 13 kb/s. Typically, 8 kb/s can be used as a loaded figure, rendering it 8 x more efficient on the surface than a POTS DS0, which stands for Digital Signal at Level 0 (for the benefit of others).
If you take into account only those periods when speech is actually being ported, then this figure jumps up considerably, without any fancy footwork. This is due to idle time dynamics caused by pauses in speech, listening periods, and other factors.
The greater the size of the carrying container (a T1, for example, versus a DS0), the greater the resulting proportionate efficiencies that can be achieved.
Still talking ITSPs on the WAN,
In this sense VoIP is key to allowing the ITSPs to compete over the WAN where they would otherwise be forced to use the more expensive PCM based alternative in the end-to-end connection. While they do in fact use VoIP in the middle of the overall connection, however, they still depend on the last mile, or the tail sections, to be provisioned by the ILEC's facilities through traditional switched means.
Now, let's leave POTS for a moment, and turn this model upside down for Cable TV's HFC. Something that would not be so unusual to imagine, if you were familiar with the folklore and cultural separations which have historically existed between these to communities. [grins] -----
If is utilized for its bandwidth optimization capabilities, it can be seen as a means of conserving rare upstream bandwidth on HFC systems, as well. It needn't go any further. To examine this properly would require examining the alternatives, which at this time usually consist of either reselling the ILEC's services or stuffing DS0s into a 6 MHz video channel. We'll talk about the latter here, since this is what the MSOs are doing, and compare it to the VoIP tail section approach as an alternative.
The switched mode. Using QAM and QPSK schemes in order to encode switched mode voice usually yields 260 switched grade voice channels (DS0s) per segment, per channel. If this doesn't say anything else, it should demonstrate the perils of resegmenting outside plant, and the need to maintain smaller segment sizes with increasing percentages of uptake for voice. But I digress once again. -----
The tradeoff in the last mile between switched and VoIP would depend in part on what that video channel would be worth to the operator if it were instead used for program services. The actual difference notwithstanding, it could be appreciable, in comparative terms.
VoIP, on the other hand, when viewed as a form of transport between the customer location and the head end only, could easily support this number of talkers. And more. And VoIP would do it without sacrificing the video channel. VoIP would instead depend on the 5-42 MHz band of frequencies, and ride between the cracks and crevices of cable modem data. Could prioritization be given to voice? Certainly. Will it? Don't know of any doing this at this time, but I don't see why not. -----
After receiving this voice content at the head end in the form of VoIP packets, that's where it would stop. As opposed to sending it out onto the WAN in native VoIP form (in which case we find the problems you cited). For the purposes of this post, however, it's converted back to traditional switched mode voice while still at the head end, using transcoders, so that it is communicable with the outside PSTN world.
It's Business as usual from that point out, and as such, avoids many of the still-perilous areas that make VoIP unacceptable for the most part, at this time.
The section between the customer and the head end could in many ways be "controlled" to allow uncongested throughput for VoIP packets. On such controlled pipes, one can hardly tell without knowing what they were doing, the differences between VoIP and the switched modes of voice.
It's soon becoming that the only time you will need to worry about the vagaries of Internet like behavior when using VoIP techs is when you start negotiating multiple hops in routed domains, circuitously seeking paths due to congested paths and overworked routers, and other anomalous conditions peculiar to unconditioned internetworking domains. Not, however, when you have a pipe that can be controlled.
If we were to the send the subscriber's VoIP voice to more extended reaches, i.e., over the greater Internet, or even sending it out as H.323 through gateways, the same could not be said with any assurances at this time, unless the ISP's backbone had ample controls associated with it.
Another factor that would discourage the cable ops from going with VoIP at this time is that is is still a very kludgy proposition for them to be getting into, mixing more disciplines than many of them are prepared to negotiate at one time. And then there are always those OSS issues that Denver alluded to earlier that would only compound matters.
The 'net itself may eventually yield the same level of clarity and visibility for VoIP as controlled IP backbones or intranets, but not anytime soon, at least not with any predictability in a universal sense.
For the purpose of conserving bandwidth in the last mile, therefore, and without penalty of other detrimental effects such as sacrificing video channels, VoIP may be used to some advantage in HFCs, if an operator so chose.
Regards, Frank Coluccio |