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To: BGR who wrote (59812)5/19/1999 6:14:00 PM
From: Knighty Tin  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 132070
 
BGR, 1. Rates are not as low as they were during many periods when PE ratios were MUCH lower. 2. The demographic argument was one of the primary scams behind the Japanese bubble. It is non-sensical. 3. Technological advances have always been with us, except they tended to be more productive in the past.

S&P pe ratio expansion has one cause only: an overwhelming expansion of credit being funnelled into speculative activity.



To: BGR who wrote (59812)5/19/1999 6:25:00 PM
From: Michael Bakunin  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 132070
 
Bukun, couldn't leave this post alone. You neatly summarize the 'new era' market view. I tend to agree with (1). (3), in my small view, has to be wrong. If not, where's the GDP? However, there clearly are potential efficiencies (e.g., business-to-business ecommerce) that are finally being realized, so I'll half agree. (2), it seems to me, is the real weak link. While it is obvious to you and me that the risk premium for equities has gone down, I posit a good chunk of the assets in the market represent people who don't understand that that means their return expectations necessarily have to be lower. If enough market participants have unrealistic expectations, their bids will crowd out others and set prices -- which is my fear these days. -mb



To: BGR who wrote (59812)5/20/1999 12:36:00 AM
From: Skeeter Bug  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 132070
 
>>IMO, S&P500 PE expansion is mostly a result of (1) relatively lower rates that the market has enjoyed for a while<<

well, rates are over 20% above their lows and... how much has the s&p dropped during that same time frame since this market is interest rate driven? ;-)