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To: Jim McMannis who wrote (59085)	5/21/1999 1:53:00 PM
From: Process Boy	Respond to of 1571978

Jim - <RE: 8) "Chris "ruiner" Tom is allowed to have his own opinion. I am aware that AMDZone doesn't hold me in the highest regards, and it isn't my job to make them like me. I encourage any site to publish the truth and their feelings, its up to the readers to decide whether or not they agree/disagree with the author's statements." For any perceived shortcomings of Anand's site, AMDZone, and in particular this ruiner character, is an absolute joke. No objectivity at all. AMD should hire him for their marketing department. Benchmarks still to come on K7. Nothing new there. But I'm glad he answered some credibility questions. He's trying. PB2

To: Jim McMannis who wrote (59085)	5/21/1999 1:55:00 PM
From: Charles R	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1571978

Jim, IMHO, Anand has lost his edge by signing up an NDA with AMD. Now, he will release a review when AMD wants him to (probably along with a few other people). AMD whet his technical curiosity by giving him a peek at early stuff and cut his journalist legs in the process. Though I am surprised it hasn't happened yet, the odds are someone other than Anand will put up the first real K7 review - based on a chip from a "leaky" OEM contact. Chuck

To: Jim McMannis who wrote (59085)	5/21/1999 2:02:00 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571978

<The only reason I slipped that 550 benchmark in there was to tone down some of the hype that the K7 has drawn. There are many non-believers, and it's about time for the market to start believing that AMD does have a very competitive chip, even in performance.> Well, this e-mail confirms that "seventh-generation technology" is only "very competitive" with sixth-generation technology. Of course, Anand really isn't telling us the whole story, and that is confusing a lot of people out there. We don't know what was "defeatured" in that K7. We don't know how fast the off-chip L2 cache was running, and this is a major factor in Winstone 99 scores even with that oversized 128K L1 cache. We don't know how fast the processor bus was running (100, 133, or 200 MHz?), not that it makes much of a difference anyway. And most importantly, we haven't seen any tests which exercise the K7's floating point or 3D performance. I'd sure like to know what the heck is keeping the K7 from being the great Pentium III killer that the hype made people believe. Remember when AMD was saying that the K6-III was positioned against the Pentium III, and the K7 was going to be positioned against Willamette? Seems like the AMD hopeful will have to settle with "very competitive" instead of "mind-blowing performance." But hey, there's always the MHz, right? As usual, I'll believe it when I see it. Tenchusatsu