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To: Paul Engel who wrote (59127)	5/21/1999 4:50:00 PM
From: Jim McMannis	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572099

RE:"In retrospect, it indicates that AMD's design approach is heavily flawed - especially in light of the LATE & S L O W Kmart 63 "ramp" !"... ---- How does this apply to the K7? ------------- RE:"Intel's approach - using the P6 core over and over - has allowed them greater opportunities for "quick" success. Mendocino was essentially production worthy on first silicon. Dixon was also - but was tweaked for lower power at high speed. Coppermine first silicon has very minimal problems on first silicon - and a minor metal mask tweak will fix that problem. Chip sets are another story. Camino was a real learning experience - not so much from a logic design standpoint, but from an electrical interface to a very high speed, poorly characterized DRDRAM bus structure - with all the attendant problems of transmission line issues."... ---- Sounds very reasonable to me as I have suggested this many times in the past.

To: Paul Engel who wrote (59127)	5/21/1999 5:20:00 PM
From: Cirruslvr	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1572099

Paul - RE: "Since the K7 is a "new core", AMD is clearly having problems getting it production worthy. That should be reassuring to AMD's customers !" Since the Merced is a "new core", Intel is clearly having problems getting it production worthy. That should be reassuring to Intel's customers ! Way toooooooo much hypocrisy on the thread today... Maybe you forgot about Intel's next BIG and IMPORTANT DELAYED processor because it is DELAYED! Selective memory at its best!

To: Paul Engel who wrote (59127)	5/21/1999 5:23:00 PM
From: Cirruslvr	Respond to of 1572099

Paul - RE: "Chip sets are another story. Camino was a real learning experience - not so much from a logic design standpoint, but from an electrical interface to a very high speed, poorly characterized DRDRAM bus structure - with all the attendant problems of transmission line issues." OH!!! According to you, it is OK for Intel to have problems with a chipset while it isn't OK for AMD to have problems with a "new core" processor. And then you go off and try to take the BLAME off Intel's back! Are those DELAYS getting to you??? What a HYPOCRITE!