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To: truedog who wrote (9478)5/21/1999 9:05:00 PM
From: robnhood  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 17770
 
truedog---

No one is a true communist-- we are inherently selfish--- If we were really totally true capitalists here , one person would end up owning everything.. A compromise must be struck... We pay mortgage payments for 20 or 30 years to who? .. Where did they get this land that we have to work our buts off to get a sliver of it? I'll tell you what I think--- They were buddies and cronies of kings and lords when they sent our forefathers to kill the indians.. They hacked up the land and to this day we still pay their families for the privelege of living on it. Don't we deserve to have a spot to live on this planet just for being here? The birds do, and all other animals.

Of course that kind of thinking is heretic, but only saleable because we pay so much just to exist on someone elses land. What did they do to get it exept be born in the right place at the right time?

We do not owe our allegiance to Elite war mongerers who stand to gain privelege on other people but to people like us who are willing to bust our buts to create and have a decent life for us and ours.

I don't think that's evil as of course we are supposed to....

It is very difficult to get capital if you have none... Most of us know that.. Are we to kneel down to those who won it through birth or deception?




To: truedog who wrote (9478)5/21/1999 9:58:00 PM
From: goldsnow  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 17770
 
Just what do you mean by"re-distribution of income"?...I would appreciate your explantion because if the above is true,you are a
communist.>>>

That is very complex question....It is very difficult to make oneself (myself in this case) without using politically incorrect rhetoric)For any Foreign Born individual political correctness in English comes with great difficulty, as it does compromise your thought and that can be easily misconscrued as arrogance or lecturing or simply misunderstood...
Ron Reece as true great American can do it with ease, declarations come easy, it is in his blood... proud and drunk from tremendous country with truly phenomenal accomplishments his rhetoric, that on the surface is hard to disagree flows....I too have enormous pride
in this great land, I can't see myself anywhere else....but that where
similarities end....I was born in Moscow in 1956, unlike Chinese on this thread proud to be born in China, Soviet Union was never my motherland, I breathed and lived for the moment to get-out -It was difficult struggle..the absurd and mind-killing and mind-destroying riduculesness of the system drove me nuts for many years, I listened to the BBC, Voice of America, Free Europe every free minute, I guess I still attracted to the internet from that experience, although internet is not jammed with high-voltage as radio on Soviet Union...Sorry for the rumble, but I did achieve in this country so much, that it would never be possible except in dream in any other, but I did not get out of Russia for this reason....

Now to your question, True lets dissect the System, not Great Free Country with free talented spirits that roaming it, system...
we have created most absurd legal system that design to find fault with anyone who has money and try to take some of it...On the surfice
this supports collection of freedoms that we elevated in the name of Liberty....Many retired people, (most do not need public funds) would never give-up hard-fought perks, never mind that they doom their own granchildren to the horrendous debt (they owe 65c on dollar, and they are in kindergarten) We protect rights, never mind the cost of every group that has influence (money to be found by lawyers) without regard to the future..Elaborate nursing homes (no Americans would never take their elderly into their houses, that would undermine quality of life)
Health Care system, Welfare system, all not absurd, app pillars of our liberties, all ignore that it is on credit card, your and my children credit card...I can afford to pay this bill for my kids, not so sure about 95% of give me more grandparents and parents..Our kids are in trouble...We can be proud of our rght to sue and remain on ventilator with terminal cancer, because we do not have to pay, our children are too little to worry...This is great experiment, that can fail mankind as surely as Colonial Power once did..so we continue to find and pile new debts, and our damm juries continue to award millions, after all congress does the same...So it is no longer 65 c debt for children, more like 85 c for grandchildren..The house in 30 years may be paid off, except the taxes would be lot higher on this house than mortgage was and capital must move on, where taxation is less..China?
Right, we re-distributed our future....but we have freedoms, who are you suing tomorrow, True?