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To: Don Pueblo who wrote (22946)5/25/1999 10:29:00 PM
From: s martin  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 26163
 
>>I see no difference in the obsessive/compulsive behavoir (sic) of the ax-murderer
burying bodies in the basement, or a guy like me spending hours & hours painting
in the basement. The only difference is how this obsessive/compulsive behavoir (sic)
manifests. For me it manifests as Art! <<

The is reminiscent of John Wayne Gacy who preferred to think of himself as an artist, rather one of the worst murders Chicago has known.



To: Don Pueblo who wrote (22946)5/26/1999 8:25:00 AM
From: tonto  Respond to of 26163
 
TLC, thanks for the post. Every once in a while someone actually posts something meaningful. You have done so today.



To: Don Pueblo who wrote (22946)5/26/1999 8:48:00 AM
From: Janice Shell  Respond to of 26163
 
Chickie--

While I wholly agree with the sentiments expressed in your post, I'm not sure we should rush to judgment in this case. Spidey's work does indeed suggest that the instrument of execution, shall we say, may well have been an axe. This is not a new technique: at the end of the fourteenth century Spinello Aretino accused a colleague of "painting with a hatchet".



To: Don Pueblo who wrote (22946)5/26/1999 1:38:00 PM
From: DSPetry  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 26163
 
A Message for you Sirrrrrrr....

Pugs let his SI membership expire (As have a lot of people recently)
I bet the ammount of posts on this forum have fallen off substantially....
Anyhow....He asked me to post this as a going away present ;)

TLC knows as much about Art as he knows about stocks! <LOL>
"intent"? <LOL>, Art is truth, does the bird 'intend' to sing a beautiful song? Do the clouds 'intend' to roll across the sky? Picasso said " I don't copy nature, I am 'in-tune' with Nature"...in other words, an Artist works IN TUNE WITH NATURE, the same way a newspaper blows across the grass or the clouds roll across the sky. TLC doesn't confront art on philosophical terms, Art is like breathing...paintings paint themselves, the artist only has to be hip enough not to interfere with the circuitry between the heart, the head & the hand. TLC can have all the "intent" he wants, in the end what we create
is either as the bird's song or the light hitting off the leaf so perfectly, unpretentiously and UNINTENDED.
Did you expect Shell & her goon squad to applaud my work? <LOL> I guess I have the whole art community scammed too! <LOL> Stay away from S.I., it's a den of theives. You can post this if you like, l hope you like the articles I sent you too, I guess they never contacted Shell & her FBN goon squad before saying such nice things about me & my work, huh?
later dude!

Pugs



To: Don Pueblo who wrote (22946)5/26/1999 6:33:00 PM
From: marcos  Respond to of 26163
 
I may not know much about Art, but i know what makes me nauseous.

lolol ..... too much seeeeeeeeembolism not good



To: Don Pueblo who wrote (22946)5/27/1999 6:02:00 PM
From: Josef Svejk  Respond to of 26163
 
OFF TOPIC

How long did I walk by the window,
before I got the idea to photograph it?
Would you believe a few years?
And it's luck that I only have two windows,
here's one and there in the back is the other,
otherwise I would have never come up with it.
Yeah, takes time sometimes.
Somebody walks by something and nothing, nothing, nothing,
and then all of a sudden, bam, and rolls over it, and done.
--Josef Sudek.

christies.com



To: Don Pueblo who wrote (22946)5/31/1999 11:29:00 PM
From: I Am John Galt  Respond to of 26163
 
If I spoke to you the most beautiful poem ever written, in Italian, and you don't speak Italian, then it is not Art.
It is gibberish.


Can't art be something that doesn't say anything to anyone? In other words, can it interest you, but not say anything in particular?

Meaning, in plain terms, can art be gibberish if it captivates you?

If it can't, then I am the artistic paradigm antithesis. ;o)

Don't mind me.

The Corporation



To: Don Pueblo who wrote (22946)6/1/1999 1:38:00 AM
From: Spider Valdez  Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 26163
 
tlc,
i just read your pompous jibberish about art. my first impression is that its just the rantings of an arrogant a-hole. re-reading makes me wonder how you can cite cezanne on your profile, yet be so philosophically in conflict with him.
art is truth, all your other dribble is horse manure. cezanne said if you were to gaze out your window and pick a leaf from a tree, render the leaf so 'realistic' that , side by side, you could not tell nature's leaf from your painting of a leaf.....it would only take the wind to blow by to ascertain the 'truth'. the wind would take nature's leaf and blow it away, yet, your painting of the leaf the wind would have absolutely no effect on. what does that tell the artist? it tells him that a painting of a leaf has absolutely nothing to do with a leaf. picasso went on further to say if you were to have an oval, and one end of the spectrum the oval was an egg, and at the other end of the spetrum it was a head. picasso said the egg meant nothing to him, the head meant nothing to him, only the area in the middle where one was not sure if it was an egg or an oval was important to him, because at that place it was liberated from nature and a true creation of the artist, the artist creates as god and nature does . art is truth, the sun doesn't 'intend' to rise, or calculate exactly how to reflect from the waves. how does one "communicate" the song of a bird? you're mad ! yet you wish to paint with "good intentions" to "communicate" something grand? lolol !
your slant on history is also laughable, the 'hip' always refer to japanese prints because philosophically the are valid, the japanese artists never destroyed the integrity of the flat 2 dimensional canvas. we can cite this, if we want to bore the crap outta everyone with academia, that path will lead us to hans hofmann and his ideas about reproducing the 4 dimensional universe on a flat 2 dimensional surface...but your posts tells us you would snuff the abstract expressionists and how they worked, spontaneously!, in fact , according to your bafoon ideas about art, you would find hofmann, muddy waters, jack kerouac, andre' breton, dekooning, debuffet, jean genet, babe ruth, michael jordan, muhammad ali, not worthy of the title 'artist'....your rantings are sophmoric....if a beautiful poem was written in italian, and i couldn't read it, it only means i must learn italian you bufoon! are you saying cubism is worthless because one can't 'read' it? when a goof like you critiques me, it is harmless...you do it for your own psycological reasons i would guess....when you can't understand the analogy about obsessive/compulsive behavoir and how it manifests in different ways for different people, i forgive you because you are speaking out your a*s. , btw, i suggest you read jean genet if you care to see how one makes poetry out of murder & murderers...are you saying genet wasn't an artist either? lol !
in the end, art is only one thing,' truth'. for all your good intentions, your canvas will laugh at you as the bird outside your window sings so beautifully & the river flows along so effortlessly. your canvas will laugh at you because with all your great "intentions" and great "communication" ....you can only produce pretentious abstractions (lies) that communicate to all how far removed from an 'artistic' expression you are.