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To: freeus who wrote (129584)5/28/1999 11:28:00 AM
From: David Harker  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 176387
 
>Sometimes good advice is not good advice across the board or for
>all situations....e.g. edamo and selling puts: selling puts is
>great but it is not "found money" as I thought: it also gives
>you margin calls when the underlying stock goes against you.

I've never sold puts so can't claim to be expert, but edamo
has made it very clear he never uses margin, that may be
why that strategy works well for him.



To: freeus who wrote (129584)5/28/1999 11:39:00 AM
From: BGR  Read Replies (8) | Respond to of 176387
 
freeus,

It may sound like a mantra coming from me after every earnings, but here goes:

1. Margin is dangerous. You are essentially giving up your long term rights to hang onto the equity that you have promised as collateral. In effect, you are more likely to sell when you are forced to, than when you want to.

2. Nobody can time the market. Nobody. Repeat for the third time, nobody. So, lightening up on margin in good times is a myth over the long run. If one can do that, they can successfully time the market. And, I repeat for the 4th time, nobody can.

3. Put sells backed by cash, and that is the most crucial point, backed by cash are almost similar (in fact slightly better) than going long the equity outright. But put sells not backed by cash are suicidal and are no different than an outright margined long position (I can mathematically prove this for you, if you want) which as you already know is not found money.

4. Buying and holding a diversified portfolio (of growth companies if you are so inclined, as long as they are in different industry sectors) long term w/o use of leverage continues to be the best strategy IMHO.

-BGR.



To: freeus who wrote (129584)5/28/1999 11:44:00 AM
From: D. Swiss  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 176387
 
Lynn, the only thing I will agree with you on is NEVER LEVERAGE YOURSELF TO DANGEROUS LEVELS. Margin governs your actions and that is not a smart way to do business. You are often placed in a position of selling at the worst possible time. I do not mean to sound preachy, but in general I would not margin more than 30% of total equity. Of course you shouldn't be buying when you are leveraged at dangerous levels, especially going into earnings warning season (June). However, do not confuse sound investing strategy like buying on down turns with margin buying, they are two different animals.

I am not heavily margined, so I am prepared to buy like hot cakes at a fat man convention during significant down turns.

:o)

Drew