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To: Ilaine who wrote (26825)	5/31/1999 11:33:00 AM
From: jpmac	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71178

We're talking about you behind you back. <eom>

To: Ilaine who wrote (26825)	5/31/1999 3:48:00 PM
From: Gauguin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71178

It's a complex world, made all the more complex, by complexity. eom

To: Ilaine who wrote (26825)	6/1/1999 10:38:00 PM
From: JF Quinnelly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71178

Like it or not. I would prefer that these things did not occur, Now in this statement you are judging the practices of the societies you have described, but you aren't adhering to your system of "ethics being 'what works'". So either your disapproval here isn't based on ethical distaste for their practices (since their practices 'work' and ergo are 'ethical'), or else your "what works" standard isn't a sufficient basis for ethical judgements. >>>>>Pragmatism is like that.<<<<< Pragmatism can end up unable to provide reasons to object to practices that are intuitively immoral. Germany began involuntary euthanasia for pragmatic reasons during the Weimar Republic. It was much cheaper to kill off the severely handicapped rather than to institutionalize them at State expense. The following government simply expanded the scope of those laws a bit. You didn't have to be severely handicapped to have a "life unworthy of living".