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To: REW who wrote (29604)5/31/1999 8:07:00 PM
From: Fred Thornell  Respond to of 44908
 
Hi Bob and Rich, lets get this puppy back on its feet.

*****TIME*****TIME*****TIME*****TIME*****TIME*****
Who in there right mind would do DD on a company,
follow it for a period of time than sell at .18

To many games by to many people, do your own DD,
buy or sell from what you know, "NOT" from what
you read here. This of course {IMHO}

Remember if i point a finger at you, i have three fingers
pointing back at me !!!

"VIPER"



To: REW who wrote (29604)6/1/1999 4:36:00 AM
From: ztect  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 44908
 
Hey Bernie..Ready for the Strangest of Twists..Ztect enlists Si Arch Enemy

or does he...or has he.....

Now the plot has taken the most bizarrre of twists.

Is ztect madd some asked?

Where's his proof?

But that crafty ztect may or may not have enlisted the
help yet or soon of ztect's SI arch enemy the one the only
the most sinister to some, the most benevolent to others
a certain you know ...........WHO

.............****________@___Not Atlantic but that other big Ocean the one that starts with a P ......

Now Mr. telephone spokesman Bob, typist Bernie today's the day of reckoning...

Note mr. Bernie if you send me a PM assuming it's confidential
prior to my agreeing that privilege you have imposed upon me your
confidentially which I am in ABSOLUTELY no way shpe or form obligated to keep...

Now per a PM to me, looks like you're already trying to cover your sleazy tracks....

Let's look at your language.....Remember to launder your slips
so they aren't on the books...

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From: REW
Saturday, May 29 1999 4:30PM ET

Steve,

First, I want to make it clear, since everyone that I talk to must put their own spin on what I say, I said I sold enough shares to cover
a bill that had to be paid. I sold at the last minute and lost even
more money due to the drop and hand delivered the payment. I
will not have my credit damaged and will sell everything if
needed to protect my personal situations. I have all the rest of my
shares. I will decide how long to hold them but that decision
keeps changing.

==============================

Does any one ever remember Bob telling them he sold?

========================

I was informed about 10 minutes after the close that Hwang left.

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How in the hell as a simple nice guy bumpkin Bob could you
know 10 minutes after the bell?

I mean my sources are good but.....your's are incredible...
guess it is true what they say about loose lips sink ships...

Heck I'd think Gordon complicit, if Gordon just wasn't
able to contain his own enthusiasm about what was happening.

After speaking with Rob for forty five minutes....

Gordon just seems like some one who I'd love to play poker with.
Guy who just revealed his straight flush because he couldn't
wipe that big grin off of his face. And when he don't got jack...
he really does complain about the cards he was dealt..

Come on Gordo...learn to put on that poker face...

Every one's waiting until you put in your money to once again take
take the pot...

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Since then I have been called by several shareholders and asked
questions. Contrary to many opinions, I do not lie about what I
know or feel.

===================

No you make them party to insider information so that they are liable to. Some how thinking or knowing that if they trade on the info you have provided them, they are unwilling accomplises to your actions.

So even if you have caused enough panic, those who are privy to
your leaks and lists that are knowledgeable KNOW that they cannot trade on the info you have provided.

Despite any impressions I may have gave...I did not sell or buy
one share on Friday nor will I sell or buy one share Tuesday...

I am holding BECAUSE it is the ONLY thing I can do.

So now that I've posted publicilly some of your willful attempts
at deceipt.

===================

NO ONE CAN SELL...BECAUSE YOU ARE ALL PRIVILEGED TO INSIDERED INFORMATION
=================

No advisements you make to people about slips and how to market time can be acted upon because they too will have violated the law if they act upon that information.

===================
I even say I am not sure about some things unless
they are confirmed and even then will try and leave doubt
because, as we all know, things change. Absolute confirmation
will come Tuesday. I think it is true Hwang is gone and that it will
stand. The Online Division will have to be shut down.

=================

Again how the fieck do you know...plus why are you so obviously tell me? Do you actually think I'm dumb enough to trade Tuesday?

Heck I may even buy. Any upward pressure on this stock and it may fly upward to the proverbial moon because you can't get the damn paper to cover your shorts.

Now wouldn't that be IRONIC...even if Hwang leaves...

So FIECKING WHAT? He wasn't the savior he was made out to be.

His vision and Gordon's vision are different...that's all no real biggie...

Hwang leaving may actually be GOOD for the company.....and considering forthcoming events ...

Hwang's leaving may actually be a blessing in disguise...

Any buying will drive the price WAY UP....and I'm not even hyping.

============
I think this company will reconcentrate all efforts on the card
products and now place all efforts on getting this completely on
track. I suspect the overhead will be greatly reduced as the focus
takes place. I also think there will be a greater acceptance of
constructive thought than before due to the lower overhead
causing fewer obstacles between Gordon and the operation.

========================

Bernie, again how the fieck do you know this?.....I too talked to Gordon...Kinda easy for me to get an unlisted home number....Makes you wonder who the fieck I really am doesn't it....
=======================

Marty was voted on the board and I thought he accepted. He was
prepared to. If it were me, I would recant that acceptance but he
will make his own decisions.

=================

Again Marty never spoke to you BooB...oops I mean Bernie.

Bernie when you called Marty for the first time ever and tried to get him to post on SI....

Marty hung up on you..Thus the PR never came...

Marty never confided in any way shape or form in REW what his decision was.

You misjudged Marty.

MARTY IS A MAN OF INTEGRITY
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There was also to be an influx of funds quickly next week and the
next. That along with the other committed funds would be
projected to be enough to push the company to the Lifetime input.


Again how the fieck do you know this?
====================

As for advising others to sell, I did not tell anyone to sell.

Hmmm....what a friggin lie. Let's see how many say otherwise....

I do expect the stock to go down farther. There are some that are inthis very heavily and are worried. I did suggest to them to
consider averaging up considerably and waiting to see what
happens. I would also say that to you. I have suggested you call
me but you have decided not to.

==================

I have to decided to not call you?
Now that is a lie....my huge phone bill including long calls
to you will be easy enough to document to prove otherwise....

I've actually spoken to you on a number of occassions.

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I have put many times more time and effort on this than I should
ever have done and tried to be as helpful as possible. I expect to
be pulling back soon and becoming more unaccessable and
deliver information in a different manner, if at all. There is too
much grief passed my way and many unfounded comments and
rumours cast my way now that things are not working out.

============

Bernie Bernie Bernie.....pulling back? Turning off the inside info faucet?

============
I'm still trying to get absolute confirmation and will decide
whether to post or not. I do feel obligated but get tired of the
reactions of some. Unfortunately, I think there is good news in
here but noone will want to hear it. The last times I have put up
anything full of information, the thread only wanted the one
sentence they could complain about.

I may just wait for the PR Tue and see what it contains.


Bob

==================
Any one else out there ever want to completely fieck the shiet out of
some low life scum.......ripping you off????

Hasn't anyone else out there wanted pay back?

Who else out there sold...only to later watch the stock run the next week?

So some predictions....

Hwang is gone....Tank that to the bank..

However that is actually GREAT NEWS

The GE money is still coming next week.

Shorts couldn't get the shares they needn't to cover as I expected.
So they been trying to scare the shiet out "longs" who just kept holding....

SO the moment everyone was waiting for?

ztect's buy/sell/hold recommendation?

Make up your own damn minds for yourself!!!!

But what the heck ...50,000 more shares is only $9,000 bucks...

Everyone do their own due diligence and make up own minds
based on their own tolerance levels of risk..

REMEMBER BERNIE ALLS SELLS BASED ON THE RUMOR MILL
YOU TRIED TO GENERATE mayBE ACCOUNTED FOR...including all short
covering....
especially any that can be attributed to you..

Thanks Sam

Sincerely,

z...(spelling not checked)

btw...if you really need to know. John knows already what I'm up to.

Let's win one for the little guy.