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To: Chris land who wrote (38923)	6/2/1999 2:01:00 AM
From: Chuzzlewit	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

Do you want liberty or do you want to stay in bondage, make your choice before it's too late. Odd. I was thinking that the question would better apply to you. The most obvious form of intellectual bondage is a failure to think -- let someone else do it for you. That way your mind (or what's left of it) is always in thrall to those who spread ignorance. So how do you know there is a devil? I don't believe one exists. How does my rejection of the existence of the devil square with your world view? Now suppose I told you that I didn't believe that God existed either. Chris, it strikes me that you haven't answered a single question I posed to you. Have you any doubts? Do you sometimes sit up at night and wonder if you might be wrong? I do all the time, because I am a skeptic. That means that I constantly question my world view. So if though God rules supreme the devil is the prince of this world ... did you ever ask the question as to why God created this system? Why doesn't God just off the devil? Why does God want to toy with us like this? Or maybe this world view is based on the hallucinations of 2,000 year old mystics wandering in the desert for days on end without water. Chris, when you show me some sign of independent thought I will know you are saved. When you can sing along with that famous philosopher, Sportin' Life, "It ain't necessarily so", I will know that you aren't really the Scarecrow worshipping some humbug wizard residing in an illusory Oz. What do you think, Chris? Are you ready to exercise your brain? TTFN, CTC

To: Chris land who wrote (38923)	6/2/1999 8:32:00 AM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Because though God rules supreme the devil is the prince of this world and until God sends final judgement against him . . If God is ruling supreme, why is the devil the prince of this world? Are they in cahoots? If not, then what is the explanation for why a supreme (all-knowing and all-powerful and morally perfect) God lets a world he created be ruled by an evil prince. For that matter, why is there even a devil at all? Others have asked you how you are certain your beliefs are true and I don't see that you've answered that. But I'm asking something else here - given that you believe what you do, do you think about the obvious conflict within your beliefs i.e. the age-old problem of evil question? How do you answer it? It can be stated many ways and is a real barrier to religious belief to many. If you are serious about witnessing to people, you need to deal with it IMO. Bruce