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To: DaveMG who wrote (31521)	6/2/1999 1:42:00 PM
From: marginmike	Respond to of 152472

I hate Nokia's, ive had nothing but bad experiences. I would own a MOT if I didnt know what I know. They have always been good to me!

To: DaveMG who wrote (31521)	6/2/1999 1:57:00 PM
From: engineer	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 152472

Then it could have been the "Thin phone...but fat in just one spot to accomodate the vibrator". Pretty easy to put in an ad...Some sacrifice had to be made to get it to 4 oz and as thin as it is.

To: DaveMG who wrote (31521)	6/2/1999 3:38:00 PM
From: DaveMG	Respond to of 152472

Africa investor Telecel divides By Sara Frewen SANDTON, South Africa—Telecel International, one of the most active cellular investors in Africa, split into two separate companies as from the end of April. The resulting companies are Telecel One, run by the American Joseph Gatt with headquarters in the United States, and Telecel Africa. Miko Rwayitare runs the latter company, with well over 30 employees, from the head office in Geneva and a marketing branch in Sandton, South Africa. Explaining the split, Michel Tsumbu Nkongo, director of licensing and business development for Telecel Africa, said the shareholders of Telecel International disagreed on their approach to developing telecommunications in Africa. Telecel Africa wanted to move away from AMPS and focus on GSM technology and wireless local loop solutions, while Telecel One was aimed at developing CDMA mobile systems. ‘‘We felt Africa was not quite ready for CDMA. In Zambia, for example, Telecel is migrating its network from CDMA to GSM,'' said Tsumbu Nkongo. Telecel One is now effectively in charge of the group's operations in the Democratic Republic of Congo, Madagascar and Guinea. It has also taken over Afrilink, Telecel's lucrative satellite network that has a 36 MHz transponder on Intelsat, and a control center in Belgium. The gross revenue of the satellite network for 1998 was well over US$30 million. Telecel Africa will run the networks in Zimbabwe, Zambia, Burundi, Central Africa Republic and Ivory Coast, as well as the additional licenses in Togo, Benin and Niger. It is also closely monitoring the wave of PTT privatizations in Africa. In March, Telecel Africa joined an international consortium consisting of Deutsche Telekom and WorldTel to form a new national carrier in Uganda following the privatization of the parastatal. The license includes deployment of a GSM cellular network. Telecel Africa recently strengthened its position in Africa by taking on NAIL, one of South Africa's most powerful black-empowerment financial and industrial groups, as a strategic partner. The original Telecel International Group rolled out its first AMPS network in 1989 and since then has rolled out 13 networks with a total of 90,000 GSM subscribers (75,000 on Telecel Africa and 15,000 on Telecel One). ‘‘Our strategy is to aggressively enter small, but lucrative markets in Africa,'' said Tsumbu Nkongo. ‘‘We do not have plans to enter the South African market at this stage as it is too competitive.'' rcrnews.com

To: DaveMG who wrote (31521)	6/2/1999 6:13:00 PM
From: JGoren	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 152472

The possible rational for no vibration in the Thin Phone is that most women will put the thing in their purses, so vibration doesn't matter. That might be the only justification for no leather holder, too. It is assumed men will put the phone in their breast pocket. I would still agree lack of vibration is not good; customer is used to having it.

To: DaveMG who wrote (31521)	6/5/1999 7:12:00 PM
From: Jon Koplik	Respond to of 152472

Re : I want a vibrator -- how many minutes (or hours) per week are you in a situation where it would be really awkward if your cell phone "rang," and ... of those minutes -- what is the probability of the phone actually ringing (e.g. how often is your house going to burn down) ? I am not yet a "heavy" cell phone user, but -- thinking back on the time I have had the thing, there were extremely few times when I would have wished for a vibrating alert. (Also, if you are in a movie theater, and your vibrating phone vibrates off, and you answer it and talk -- aren't you going to be making a spectacle of yourself by talking on the phone in a movie theater ?) Jon. P.S. I am way behind in reading posts. If someone else out there already came up with the same thoughts ... never mind !