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To: ftth who wrote (1592)6/3/1999 9:49:00 AM
From: Scott H. Davis  Respond to of 1720
 
<<Just remember, if one of the questions is to provide a one page valuation estimate for an internet company, you're supposed to leave the page blank, or put Ø>> Actually, with a few like YAHOO or AOL, a fraction would work.

Dave, I think we're WAY too FA literate. I'm a long term Info Sys vet who used the net before browsers (UNIX command line kinda stuff) I looked at the valuations (or lack of thereof) and passed. Should have put 1/2 my money in an S&P index fund (another source of good returns from overvalued holdings), the other half in whatever net IPO I could get my hands on.

I do serious DD on biotechs, which I believe have a lot more long-term potential, and have paper losses on 3 out of 4. Scott



To: ftth who wrote (1592)6/3/1999 9:26:00 PM
From: HeyRainier  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1720
 
[ OT ]

Do you have to travel somewhere to take it?

Yes , but it's not that much of a trip. The tests in Washington state always used to be administered at the University of Washington (or so I hear), but this time, for some wacky reason they decided to have it about a 40-minute drive further south, in a Doubletree Hotel next to the Seattle-Tacoma Airport.

Being only about 7 minutes away from the university by bus, I was quite bummed. I eventually booked a reservation at the very hotel for Friday to make sure nothing can go wrong during my commute to the test site. So this time, I just wake up, yawn, and walk downstairs to take the test. As you can see, I love to eliminate as much certainty as I can when it counts.

Regards,

Rainier

PS. Thanks for the tip on internet valuations! <lol>



To: ftth who wrote (1592)6/7/1999 2:56:00 AM
From: HeyRainier  Respond to of 1720
 
[ CFA Exam ]

Hi Dave,

It feels rather strange to have so much free time on my hands now. The test has come and gone, and I understand that the results will come out in about three months. Until then, I will hold a guardedly optimistic stance on the results.

The test was broken into two halves: a morning session that was from roughly 9:00 in the morning to 12:00 noon, and an afternoon session that went from about 1:30 to 4:30. Each test was 120 questions, and covered a whole range of topics, a little bit of each randomly spread about the test in clusters:

1. Ethical & Professional Standards
2. Economics: Micro, Macro, International
3. Quantitative Analysis
4. Financial Statement Analysis & Corporate Finance
5. Global Markets & Instruments
6. Asset Valuation
7. Portfolio Management

It was my impression that the test progressively became more difficult. That is, the afternoon session was a bit more difficult than the morning session. The nuances you were supposed to be able to distinguish seemed to get even more subtle. Whereas in the first test I finished with about 35 minutes to spare, I found myself with only a 15 minute cushion at the end of the second test for reviewing my work. From the 240 questions, I found myself guessing on about 3 questions I had absolutely no clue about.

The passing score is structured such that 70% of the top 1% of all scores is used as the hurdle. So for example, if the top 1% of all the candidates score an average of 95%, the hurdle point would be 67%. As of the most recent figures, the pass rate has steadily declined from mid-80% in the 1960's to a recent 55% as of 1997, while the participation rate continues to expand at an exponential rate. In 1997, 30,642 candidates took the exam, and from what I hear of this year's test, about 59,000 took it this year.

I have been told that the decline could be attributed to a lot more people trying to take the test who essentialy don't belong there: people from all walks of the financial world (or otherwise) who are more interested in the designation rather then the knowledge attained from the program. In other words, these are the people who want the title but don't usually put in the required time, effort, and sacrifices to make the goal a reality.

For those who go through the curriculum, the work load is enough to be considered equivalent to a full year of college courses. Imagine that at the beginning of the year, you are given 9 textbooks, and by June, you will take a final exam, pass/fail, to test you on everything you've learned.

Some rocket scientists I've come across started their studies in March, and I've come across also one individual a while ago who didn't want to buy the required texts at all, but desired only to buy the cram-course notes that are regularly published for the CFA exam. It's not exactly the kind of CFA I would be flattered with.

Back to the exam:

There were a couple hundred people at the hotel ballroom where the Level One and Level Two tests were held; about two-thirds were Level One candidates, and the rest were Level Two candidates. The Level Three exams were administered at the above floor, and looked considerably smaller--my guess is at most 30 people for that one, but I wouldn't be able to confirm that.

Overall, I feel satisfied with my studies. The supplementary material I used (practice exam disks, notes) were very helpful. I do have a grudge however about the poor quality control of the Allen Resources test bank disk. There are some really bonehead answers there, and I sometimes wonder what these people were on when they put the software together. I estimate the error rate was about 3%, but each one felt like one too many in my opinion.

While I wait for the results for the next three months, I pleasantly find myself with freedom of time on my hands. With that time of course, I will be looking to catch up on lost time with loved ones, and reading the numerous books that have become backlogged.

Regards,

Rainier



To: ftth who wrote (1592)8/5/1999 12:27:00 PM
From: HeyRainier  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1720
 
I'm seeing lots of Hammers and Bullish Engulfings in the market as well as for individual issues. Interesting bottom activity. When I came in today I didn't realize that a number of the net issues had gapped down at the open--a sign of capitulation I was not expecting until later on. Oh well. There's always money to be made long or short.

BTW, ARBA has a Bullish Engulfing Dave. CMRC seems to have a Hammer on it, but it's still down for the 10 count.

-RT