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To: SDR-SI who wrote (7273)	6/3/1999 11:09:00 AM
From: doormouse	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 11417

Steven, My condolences on your ISO slots :)) (Wonder if there'll be a USB version :)) Your questions are well-timed. I can't answer them, but your asking brings me to vent.... :)) I haven't heard of anyone running datacast over FM sub-carrier --- off the cuff, has anyone a magnitude of throughput achievable through a sub-carrier (with FEC of course)? VBI gives about 10 kbits per line; current boards --- so far as I know --- only modulate one line. Nothing would prevent a board from coupling many lines --- even across different channels --- but this would imply the datacaster aggregates many lines times many channels. Do the arithmetic --- at 3 lines times 5 channels, for ex., that's 150 kbits/sec. But no one has. Wav0 (the artist formerly known as WavePhore) got me all hot and wet a few years ago when they announced their "TV T 1/4" system which claimed to be embed 384 kbs into the active portion of any TV picture,,,, but that dropped off their radar without a peep (or press release :) and they morphed into a VBI (yawn) company. Now when DTV comes,it gets interesting: the broadcaster can choose to devote as many (or as few) MHz to data as he chooses --- with QAM and QPSK and all, 6 MHz standard NTSC channels allow 27 mb/s to (some claim) 48 mb/s -- wider (HDTV) channels would provide an even higher potential aggregate --- I don't remember for sure. I suppose we could ask Sarnoff.. :) Frankly, it's this databroadcasting --- meaning music, software, games, news and every other kind of bits --- bits have no central nervous system, are agnostic, don't know if they're communist bits, bulls or bears --- this is what has me interested. Basically, the data gets a free ride. The correllation between available space and the most popular www content comes out surprisingly tight. (I remember when it was said that 10% of web sites accounted for 90% of traffic --- but these were static sites, and the art is now moving toward dynamic... neverthless reactive caching (see SkyCache, Harvest, et. al.) could make this bandwidth count.) Outside the US, where bandwidth grows on trees, this is even more meaningful. Anhywaqy, Steven, FM subcarrier is sure a viable means of local distribution --- but at what speed? (And, could several sub-carriers be aggregated?) All this approaches the topic of whether current broadcasters -- TV, AM & FM want to add TV/AM/FM/IP... (Surfeit pager capacity doesn't count! -- :)) Strange daze... bye, .k

To: SDR-SI who wrote (7273)	6/3/1999 8:33:00 PM
From: herman15	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 11417

Steven D. Rosenberg, Sorry for the delay but your questions were (are) way over my non-technical head. Regarding your questions from your post #7273, I stumbled on this link on RB WAVX main board (thanks shortlong post #41285 )that at least in part, answer your question(s). Try zdnet.com (if this doesn't work go to above RB post). I do have the Haup board and I will try to go to the WAVO sight and download the additional software. I must warn you though it will be complete trial and error. I may bump into something interesting or not. I may and not recognize it. Anyway I hope this at least answers your questions. Let me know if you have any requests for info (that I would comprehend) about this after I do it.(probably tonight). Again credit to shortlong for finding it and answering his own questions. See ya Herman

To: SDR-SI who wrote (7273)	6/3/1999 10:25:00 PM
From: andrew peterson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 11417

Steven -- I think (although I'm not entirely certain) that this partly addresses your question. I finally got my WinTV board today (I had to have it shipped over from a CompUSA in Spokane) and I've been fiddling with it in my free moments. I got it installed fine and got the TV broadcast and WaveDirect running just fine. I was expecting to find WaveTop as part of the set-up, but it didn't install at all as part of basic WinTV installation procedure. The WinTV Installation and Reference Manual talks about setting up "Intel Intercast," which allows you among other things to "view eweb pages received over the airwaves." I haven't actualy found this Intercast software anywhere in the software Hauppage provides. I don't think that it's there. However, in poking around on the CD I found a WaveTop directory from which I could intsall the WAVO software. This also wasn't part of the basic set up scheme and if I hadn't gone snooping I wouldn't have known it was there. I've tried to get it running but it won't recognize my local PBS station, even though WinTV picks it up just fine. So for the moment I'm stuck there. I'm not sure what that means or whether it actually addresses your questions. I also don't know if my experience with this matches anyone elses. I haven't had much time to try out WaveDirect, beyond setting up my account. Looks pretty smooth, basically. More straightforward than the Hauppage stuff, for sure. I have some small gripes, but they're more about style than substance and I'll save those to e-mail to the company. More than anything, I sure as hell wish they'd get the on-line store up and running. It's probably a good thing that most of the people using the system right now are company supporters who have some patience about these things. 24601's points are well taken about this being a test run for the Wave back office. That's certainly part of what's happening here. On the other hand, it was the company who emphasized how carefully titles were being chosen for this launch. I think that monitoring user patterns will in fact turn out to be an important part of this launch, and I suspect that Wave will make some changes based on what they find, in terms of packaging, pricing options (I know, that's up to the vendor but the feedback Wave gives them should be informative) and teasers. The software needs better teasers to lure people in. All right, I managed to get some griping in. Basically, I'm just so thrilled to see my Wavemeter (yes, the chip still has the old name on it), #9172351, sitting inside my computer and to have Wave's software sitting on my desktop. After all this time, it's really quite a rush.