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To: epicure who wrote (27640)	6/6/1999 2:18:00 AM
From: nihil	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 71178

I don't believe you know much about democracy. It has nothing to do with a majority of the people. Demos</> means the common citizens, not the people or the nobility. A Greek idea, democracy grew out of the class war between the nobles and the poor of the Greek city state, especially Athens. Aristotle and Plato noticed that democracy (in Athens) stole property from the rich (they had you build a trireme for defense if you showed too much wealth). Democracy tended to fall into the hands of tyrants or clever politicians like Pericles. Noble families were exiled (and often plotted against the democratic state. Democracy, of course, killed Socrates and expelled Aristotle. It was miscreant Athenian democracy that poisoned the name for 2100 years. When Jackson was called "Democrat" by the elitists (like John Quincey Adams supporters) it was an insult. John Adams feared democracy, and even Madison demanded that the democratic House (for whom African Americans and women could not vote --- hence no majority) be restrained by a Senate (elected by legislatures) and a President (elected by an electoral college). As the Republicans never fail to point out, the U.S. is a republic, not a democracy (like the UK).

To: epicure who wrote (27640)	6/6/1999 2:42:00 AM
From: nihil	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71178

MAYBE A LITTLE EASIER TO READ I don't believe you know much about democracy. It has nothing to do with a majority of the people. Demos means the common citizens, not the people or the nobility. A Greek idea, democracy grew out of the class war between the nobles and the poor of the Greek city state, especially Athens. Aristotle and Plato noticed that democracy (in Athens) stole property from the rich (they had you build a trireme for defense if you showed too much wealth). Democracy tended to fall into the hands of tyrants or clever politicians like Pericles. Noble families were exiled (and often plotted against the democratic state. Democracy, of course, killed Socrates and expelled Aristotle. It was miscreant Athenian democracy that poisoned the name for 2100 years. When Jackson was called "Democrat" by the elitists (like John Quincy Adams supporters) it was an insult. John Adams feared democracy, and even Madison demanded that the democratic House (for whom African Americans and women could not vote --- hence no majority) be restrained by a Senate (elected by legislatures) and a President (elected by an electoral college). As the Republicans never fail to point out, the U.S. is a republic, not a democracy (like the UK).