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THE SLIGHTLY MODERATED BOXING RING
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17533<<If it was anybody else, would you be so willing to assume a coincidence?Ish-7/15/2002
17532don't you people ever get tired of fiddling while rome burns? :)MulhollandDrive-7/15/2002
17531I did. www.publicintegrity.orgjlallen-7/15/2002
17530Incredible....jlallen-7/15/2002
17529I'm just going by what the SEC investigators wrote. Didn't happen is theBill-7/15/2002
17528Didn't happen, or weren't recorded? People close to a company's opeDayuhan-7/15/2002
17527It will be even clearer when the rest of the records are released. seattlepi.nwTigerPaw-7/15/2002
17526<i>as JLA said... </i> I wouldn't know what he says, but I wouldTigerPaw-7/15/2002
17525He's not the only one armed with misinformation. On the CBS morning show thiBill-7/15/2002
17524<I>He dumped the shares shortly before the firm tanked, then failed to repBill-7/15/2002
17523You cite it, you post it. Put it here.Dayuhan-7/15/2002
17522Read the SEC's report on the market data at www.publicintegrity.org JLAjlallen-7/15/2002
17521As I said, acquainting himself with the facts would help in his analysis.jlallen-7/15/2002
17520<i> The market data which is not able to be manipulated by Bush or his fatDayuhan-7/15/2002
17519<I>What makes you think it didn't happen in this case? </i> FrBill-7/15/2002
17518Wrong. The market data which is not able to be manipulated by Bush or his fatjlallen-7/15/2002
17517<i>The evidence here is exculpatory....</i> The only exculpatory faDayuhan-7/15/2002
17516Practically speaking, it may be getting to that....jlallen-7/15/2002
17515Can not compare to OJ. The physical evidence was overwhelming in that case. Thejlallen-7/15/2002
17514Yep, that's the story we're hearing, and I guess we'll keep on heariDayuhan-7/15/2002
17513<i>the facts surrounding his ignorance of the loss are pretty well establiDayuhan-7/15/2002
17512In other words, as JLA said, there ain't none.Lazarus_Long-7/15/2002
17511You need to add in that Bush didn't have those shares up for sale. A broker Ish-7/15/2002
17510From a legal perspective, yes, he's in the clear. That has very little to dDayuhan-7/15/2002
17509Seems so. I now agree with OMD that Bush needs to get all the info out.Bill-7/15/2002
17508In fact, the fact that Clinton's SEC revisted the issue and chose not to purjlallen-7/15/2002
17507Your second point makes sense. But the facts surrounding his ignorance of the loBill-7/15/2002
17506You can't (logically) say Bush got away with anything if you can't provejlallen-7/15/2002
17505<i>In which case the person is entitled to enjoy the presumption of innoceDayuhan-7/15/2002
17504<i>The SEC wrote that he didn't know the magnitude of the loss</i&gDayuhan-7/15/2002
17503I agree. And I doubt he takes the 5th. I tell you I think that someone ought tjlallen-7/15/2002
17502The article isn't even accurate as I recall the circumstances and timing. Ijlallen-7/15/2002
17501<i>it is virtually impossible to prove that any impropriety took place. &ljlallen-7/15/2002
17500<i>Bush sold stock as an insider to buy a baseball team, and reported it lDayuhan-7/15/2002
17499He sold his shares two months before the loss was reported. The SEC wrote that hBill-7/15/2002
17498I can see you are not interested in the facts.jlallen-7/15/2002
17497E, That article from the VV was, IMO, a poor attempt at a hatchet job. What thOriginal Mad Dog-7/15/2002
17496The established facts are that a well connected insider dumped a pile of shares Dayuhan-7/15/2002
17495No vacation. Just the weekend. I rarely post on weekends. I'd rather spenjlallen-7/15/2002
17494Ain't none....jlallen-7/15/2002
17493Denial of the established facts is not a persuasive argument....jlallen-7/15/2002
17492Don't be ridiculous. All the documents will tell you is what was written doDayuhan-7/15/2002
17491<i>Evidence? Other than Butler's word. </i> The best evidence fTigerPaw-7/15/2002
17490<i>How do we know what he was aware of?</i> Read the SEC investigatjlallen-7/15/2002
17489<i>The loss Bush was aware of $4.2 million is consistent with the Company&Dayuhan-7/15/2002
17488I think he's been fully discredited as the partisan hack he really is at thijlallen-7/15/2002
17487The loss Bush was aware of $4.2 million is consistent with the Company's prijlallen-7/15/2002
17486If he plans to take the 5th, he should resign first. If his actions were legal, Bill-7/15/2002
17485There certainly is a fair bit of partisan hype flying around, as there always isDayuhan-7/15/2002
17484Do know you have a way with words...you should appreciate these....(at least tilKLP-7/15/2002
17483Good enough. Clearly we need to bring some RW pitbulls over to fight with the LLazarus_Long-7/15/2002
17482That was a partisan hit piece. You know it. I know it. Everybody knows it. Lazarus_Long-7/15/2002
17481<i>What, yu think I'm Bush's PR flack? </i> no, but i do liE-7/15/2002
17480<i>I'm taking pity on poor Laz and posting this item to you. </i>Lazarus_Long-7/15/2002
17479Oh I forgot that autobiography could be misquoted and misused and give nutjobs aE-7/14/2002
17478But didn't JLA go on vacation? I do so hate delayed gratification, that'E-7/14/2002
17477OooooooooooooCRASH That was me fainting when I read <i>I agree with you E-7/14/2002
17476I'm referring this to my attorney, Mr. Allen, for comment. [Gee, you REALLYLazarus_Long-7/14/2002
17475You're picking a fight with the wrong person. I agree with you on all pointLazarus_Long-7/14/2002
17474<i>It does, though, make one wonder if there is no more serious issue of dE-7/14/2002
17473Who let the dawg out?Lazarus_Long-7/14/2002
17472E This is her idea. I think she should the first to post lots and lots of persLazarus_Long-7/14/2002
17471You're no fun. Put N on. :-)Lazarus_Long-7/14/2002
17470<i>And of course you have no problem whatever with the women who aren'Dayuhan-7/14/2002
17469I'm taking pity on poor Laz and posting this item to you. I do think White sE-7/14/2002
17468Unfortunately, JLA and Bill aren't here, so I'm forced to send this piecE-7/14/2002
17467And of course you have no problem whatever with the women who aren't allowedE-7/14/2002
17466I didn't answer your questions because they had nothing to do with the questE-7/14/2002
17465I assume, then, that your answer to the question below is that it would be wrongE-7/14/2002
17464I don't see what that <g> was doing at the end of that very perspicaciE-7/14/2002
17463Don't forget to divide your list into categories.... <reading chart in oOriginal Mad Dog-7/14/2002
17462Hi alexed, That is mighty good news! I haven't even looked on IHub for a wPoet-7/14/2002
17461Okay big guy, where's your list?Poet-7/14/2002
17460LOL!!!! Excellent idea. The Clarence Thomas solution.Lazarus_Long-7/14/2002
17459<i>The National Council of Women's Organizations has demanded that AugDayuhan-7/14/2002
17458Message 17733555 .Lazarus_Long-7/14/2002
17457Message 17733555Lazarus_Long-7/14/2002
17456I think N has an evil mind. :-) Let's see. You give a party at your housLazarus_Long-7/14/2002
17455Hello Poet, A feature which you asked for long ago is in the works. Message 177alexed-7/14/2002
17454<i>Ray Duray Em*le V*drine</i> ????????????????????????????????Lazarus_Long-7/14/2002
17453A half hour with no book on tape? eeeek. Going offline now. My friend is leaviE-7/14/2002
17452Duray is an articulate guy to the left of Marx, who recently has gone on an insuPoet-7/14/2002
17451Yep. Some women get mad and throw dishes. Not her. She was more into throwing taIsh-7/14/2002
17450Would those be actual autobiographies, or fictional, pretend ones actually writtE-7/14/2002
17449Laz, I was just talking to N about the golf club, and he asked me what I would tE-7/14/2002
17448Oh. She was a genuine madwoman.E-7/14/2002
17447My votes for profilees on an Autobiography thread: Ray Duray Voltaire Em*le V*dPoet-7/14/2002
17446Hi CR, I'm curious: what do you do while in the car all that time? Do you Poet-7/14/2002
17445Good morning E, Your chicken recipe sounds wonderful. It's probably the orPoet-7/14/2002
17444I don't know anything about that issue, but my superficial reaction is that E-7/14/2002
17443<<It doesn't have a "card"? What is a card to a sewing machiIsh-7/14/2002
17442This year, it is the Central California coast because the national convention isConstant Reader-7/14/2002
17441<i>I'd do some of my favorite SI characters.</i> UHHHH OHHHH! :Lazarus_Long-7/14/2002
17440<grabs pot stirrer> The Master's Golf Tournament has always been heldLazarus_Long-7/13/2002
17439Hey, I do a chicken dish almost like that (not often, because the wine is a headE-7/13/2002
17438<i>The mind is what the brain does.</i> That's so obvious a forE-7/13/2002
17437But that would have to be the Biography thread, and I have a feeling those contrE-7/13/2002
17436<i>You dirty-minded thread god, you. ;-) </i> ME? You're the oneLazarus_Long-7/13/2002
17435<i>Do you have any ideas? </i> One answer is gov't-sponsored resLazarus_Long-7/13/2002
17434<I>We could start a thread for Autobiographical Sketches, 2000 - 3000 wordPoet-7/13/2002
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