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Emcee:  Sid Turtlman Type:  Unmoderated
This is a forum for those who wish to explore a number of topics that go, I guess, under the heading of economics. By that I DON'T mean what the next statistic out of Washington will be. I am thinking more in terms of big picture issues that impact your investment strategies, such as:

To what extent is the strength in the economy the result of a booming stock market and the easy availability of venture capital and IPO financing? If the market crashed or entered into a long bear market, might we enter a downward spiral, where the drying up of that financing weakens the economy, sending stocks even lower? In other words, is there a "proper" level of stock prices, and are we above it?

To what extent is the spread of capitalism worldwide helping us, by expanding markets and demand for our goods and services, or hurting us, by developing lower cost competitors? Is labor's share of corporate income going to decline forever, or might corporate profits as a percentage of sales be topping out? Can stock prices continue to grow at a rate that far exceeds the growth of the economy? Might bonds be a better investment than stocks over the next decade?

How should we really measure risk? Is there any merit to the various academic theories of investing?

While I expect this thread will mostly cover general topics, I'd also like see people apply micro-economics to particular industries. Supply, demand, fixed costs, variable costs, capital investment, barriers to and ease of entry - if you understand how these things operate, and have your facts correct, then no matter what the industry, you have an edge for predicting how its stocks will do. Wall Street's usual mistake - focusing on demand and ignoring supply - plays into the hands of those of us who do remember Econ. 101. So if you know any situations where basic economic principles create a great investment opportunity, long or short, please tell us about it here.

I'll start below with an intriguing recent argument that returns from investing in equities are bound to decline. Thanks.
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686Mqurice (seems to be your name of choice) We do agree on most points but we cerCrabbe-9/25/2003
685Rodney, we agree. SI search still isn't working, but I found one of my moreMaurice Winn-9/25/2003
684I misread your first post badly. I guess I was looking for disagreement as that Crabbe-9/25/2003
683Rodney, I gave only the short version. For years I have been ranting about wherMaurice Winn-9/24/2003
682Very Interesting Maurice! Also very shortsighted. If the farming/hunting/food Crabbe-9/24/2003
681<<i>Back to technology - The next "Killer App." from the softMaurice Winn-9/23/2003
680Hi after a very long absence. I thought I would post a message about my ideas ICrabbe-9/19/2003
679FA eventually works: I always thought INTC isn't worth more then $17 MessagArik T.G.-1/16/2003
678An interesting article by W.G. Buffett: fortune.com >>35 companies in thArik T.G.-12/2/2001
677It's going to get worse by my reckoning... I expect the S&P to open @ 80LLCF-11/6/2001
676As before, stocks are still valued based on the best case scenario, and the bestArik T.G.-11/5/2001
675Institutions have been buying recently on the anticipation that earnings growth Rarebird-11/2/2001
674Today's personal spending data show the magnitude of the shift in consumer cArik T.G.-11/1/2001
673I think it's "popping".... DAKLLCF-5/11/2001
672Anybody saying the bubble has deflated must be joking. With the Dow and NYA jusArik T.G.-5/11/2001
671The public keeps pumping money into their funds day in and day out... it's aLLCF-5/11/2001
670Hi, Sid, Capacity utilization number yesterday (79.4%) slightly better then expArik T.G.-4/18/2001
669John: Spanked, whipped, or plain old beaten to a pulp, it is turning out not to Sid Turtlman-4/3/2001
668Hi Arik, I agree with what you write, but would add that the bubble primarily fJohn Dally-4/2/2001
667Hello, John. >>Everything we thought would happen is now happening very rArik T.G.-4/1/2001
666Hi Arik, I'm still out here, I just don't post much any longer . . . EJohn Dally-3/29/2001
665C'mon guys, Anybody wish to comment about economy and the market... Oh, wellArik T.G.-3/29/2001
664Still pumping H.6 (508) Table 2 MONEY STOCK AND DEBT MEASURES Percent changeArik T.G.-3/29/2001
663The PPI/CPI numbers show AG the limits to pumping money. M2 growth accelerated sArik T.G.-2/28/2001
662Agree.... will be interesting if unwinds to some extent during a downturn in theLLCF-2/27/2001
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