You are right Laz. I will consider whether I will post here again...I don't like the attacks... I was expressing my displeasure at those radio hosts... Laura Ingrahm... Sean O Hannity...Rush Limbaugh Neal Bork... or Borch or whomever...Bill O Reilly... Someone named Beck... That's Glenn Beck. He's a wuss.
Does Charlie Rangels "liberal love" count? “George Bush is our Bull Connor,” Rep. Charles Rangel of New York told cheering Congressional Black Caucus conventioneers on September 22. nationalreview.com nysun.com
Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., who is black, was asked on public TV what he thought about the president.
"Well," he said, "I really think that he shatters the myth of white supremacy once and for all." msgboard.snopes.com
Sen. Hillary Clinton drew criticism Tuesday for a Martin Luther King Jr. Day speech in which she told a mostly black audience at a Harlem church that Republican leaders have run the House "like a plantation" and the Bush administration will go down as "one of the worst" in U.S. history. cnn.com
"The truth is the president of the United States used the same device that Slobodan Milosevic used in Serbia. When you appeal to homophobia, when you appeal to sexism, when you appeal to racism, that is extraordinarily damaging to the country," Dean charged. "I know George Bush. I served with him for six years [as a fellow governor]. He's not a homophobe. He's not a racist. He's not a sexist. In some ways, what he did was worse ... because he knew better." truthout.org
Here's how much the Limousine Liberals in Hollywood really care about you: "Motion Picture Association of America puts on daylong show for lawmakers, lobbyists and Capitol Hill aides to press its agenda for fighting piracy, obtaining new tax advantages and reining in movie and television production from going abroad; releases study showing that film and TV production accounts for $30 billion in wages, $10 billion in taxes, more than 400,000 jobs and trade surplus of $9.5 billion;" select.nytimes.com
Are those current enough? Need more examples? There are plenty of them.
And I think that it is rather childish to go there and lift posts take them to another thread where fun is poked at the author... You miss a point: If they didn't voluntarily make ***es of themselves, that thread and the others like it that have sprung up would dry up and blow away. You also purposefully ignore the many other things discussed that have nothing to do with other threads. But if they willing provide belly laughs...
This to me is more disappointing than someone taking a position . That's rather common, if you ever took the trouble to READ THE THREAD! But, by your own admission, you don't.
I like View from Center as the newspapers,magazines and other articles supporting positions are posted..all from various news sources. Explain these: Message 23356344 Message 23353499 Message 23352707 Message 23352667 Message 23352167 Message 23351839 Message 23351618 They're all just from the currently visible page of THAT THREAD you love to hate. Wanna try again?
Malicious attacks on someones integrity.. Integrity is not attacked. Idiocy is. How much pressure did you receive from your cohorts, speaking of groupthink?
Regarding the Sioux's thread... Anyone can post there without getting attacked as far as I know. ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!! How much testimony would you like to the contrary?
The other's you mention I have not visited nor read...And Raymond Drury goes back to 2003... when he was excluded from S.I. It's not fair to mention him as he is old news. You got PLENTY already that ISN'T 'old news'. And Duray was much cheered and loved by the SI Left in his day, very rarely taken to task by any of them, and deeply mourned when SI Admin had had enough. You REALLY want me to search through Soup Ration, View from the Far Left, .... ? Say so if so. They're the Mother Lode.
The Dixie chicks are great like their singing. I never hear Al Franken... I do not hear Air America I think one needs satellite radio... Michael Moore it seems was active about four years ago and I have not heard or see a film of his since then. So none of this ever happened? There was a reason for all of them to make more noise: There was a Presidential election coming.
HOWEVER, Every day I am pounded.. if I listen to the local radio... by those I mention and at night too. Cannot even find a station as Matt Drudge gets the airways at night and Michael Medved. Sorry you're losing the battle for hearts and minds.
Just tell me where the position that is opposite to what those radio hosts I mention are available on radio.. Oh, we have PLENTY out here on the Left Coast.
All the radio hosts have I mentioned here.. are calling Democrats liberals, spitting out the word as Communists were once Aren't most Democrats liberals? What's unfair about saying so?
I ONLY GET THOSE PERSONS WHOM I MENTIONED.. Is that fair ? Inundated with only one group of voices... No opposition until I come to S.I and read posted articles.. I get inundated by the left. Is that fair?
I don't know what you mean by LIBERAL LOVE. I don't either. I don't think I've ever seen it.
Our positions differ. It is as simple as that.. Thank you for stating my point. And this country still having free speech, we can state our positions. And point out where we think the other side is wrong. Freely, if we avoid rather narrowly confined limits on speech. And I think we can agree that the situation should remain such.
I do disappoint but then so do others.. We are all not saints.. I think some are misguided as they do me. It might surprise you, but I would agree with some on your list of 'misguided'.
IN all the years I have been on S.I. I have only seen one person's mind changed.. and then only slightly and with regard to the war. The situation here is more complicated than you might believe. First are those who oppose the war, but fear what baggage the Dems will bring with them. There are also those who consider the war a mistake, but fear what will come if we cut and run.
As far as Conservatives not seeing how our country is going bankrupt and how this war is effecting our debt.. I cannot grasp.. A great many do see it. They also consider that running will only encourage the enemy. This isn't Vietnam. They won't leave us alone if only we go home. This started long before 911 and will continue long after Iraq if we run. Running has been tried before. You got 911 for it. The country had an economic time bomb long before Bush. Remember the debates about SS, the Baby Bust, and Generational Warfare? Bush did add greatly to the problem with the Medicare Prescription bill. And he did it to win an election. OTOH, the AARP is behind it and is quite liberal. I don't know about you, but I will never join.
I have always been for LESS GOVERNMENT.. and FISCAL responsibility. I assume you support national health care. How are those compatible?
My gripe has been the overwhelming number of Conservative radio hosts who distort the facts to suit their messages.. GIVE ME A BREAK, SUMA! You think that is confined to one side? Honestly? Read the examples above. If you fail to see it from YOUR SIDE it is willful blindness.
To get angry and attack is only leading to more divisiveness in this Country and boy, it surely is abounding now. Think so? Check out the early republic. Politics ia gentle game compared to that. Or the decades leading to the Civil War. Know about the Sumner caning on the Senate floor? And that Congresscritters started packing heat to Congressional debates? The later 19th century provided some rather interesting episodes too.
In all my life I have never seen a Country so divided. Vietnam? I'd like to suggest you've forgotten a lot. I think you have to go back to that era to find a Sec'y of Defense as incompetent as Rummy: MacNamara. Rummy wins, though, I think.
What did this... Could it possibly be President Bush, his policies and the war...? Wanna throw rocks, I see. The country was united during the Cuban Missile Crisis. Then it came unglued. Could it possibly have been LBJ and his war?
I would be for and vote for anyone whom I thought was honest. Colin Powell on the Repub ticket? McCain?
What is it that you believe and why do you support Bush the way that you do. You've got answers above. Why do you support Hillary?
I find that Democrats were willing to admit that Clinton besmirched the White House. AFTER he was trapped beyond a shadow of a doubt by a little blue dress, they did, yes. Somewhat. And some still claim he was trapped for acts between consenting adults, ignoring his perjury. Which the Arkansas state bar would not.
But I never never read anyone who says the President is wrong.. In the threads you read? Every day. If you haven't seen a Republican do it, it's because you never read their posts on their threads. It's happened often enough. I've done it myself, saying no credible evidence exists tying Iraq to 911 AND, if you REALLY looked at it, the evidence of WMD in Iraq before the invasion was weak at best. And this is not the first time I've said it. I no longerhave advanced search and can't dig up those posts, but I know others who can and will. But we're in. What now? Run?
It would be much more acceptable if at times one could find a criticism of him by the other side. You can. You haven't even tried. |