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To: JF Quinnelly who wrote (29801)	6/24/1999 6:48:00 AM
From: nihil	Respond to of 71178

She is a mystery. Brilliant. Brave. Cruel. Crafty. Her mere existence saved her country from Spanish domination after Queen Mary's death. Her courage saved it once again in 1588.

To: JF Quinnelly who wrote (29801)	6/24/1999 11:44:00 AM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 71178

Still can't remember her advisors' name, Wolsey? Takes her to a church and shows her people worshipping a statute of the Blessed Virgin. And then she goes back to her chambers and paints her face and dresses up grandly, and comes out to show herself looking like an icon. It seemed very vulgar and crude. But after the shock of seeing such a beautiful woman painted up like a caricature faded, I realized that a beautiful woman will never be respected, but an icon will be worshipped. She had to put herself above all the men, and she couldn't do it by her strength as her father did. So she did it by symbolism. Symbolism is very strange, how looking a certain way, by costume or head-dress or paint, can affect other people at an emotional level that they may not even recognize.

To: JF Quinnelly who wrote (29801)	6/24/1999 11:58:00 AM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 71178

I have Churchill's History of the English Speaking Peoples. He wrote very well, and it's easy to read. And I am conservative, so I enjoy his point of view, it's unabashedly patriotic. I used to adore Churchill, and then I saw a bio on either the History Channel or PBS, which went into detail on some of his gaffes which are usually glossed over - like Gallipoli, and the fact that he did not want to disband the English after World War I, he wanted to send them to Russia to fight on the White side, which was very noble for him but not so noble for the poor soldiers. And the English loyalty to gold I think contributed mightily to the world-wide depression after WWI, and of course Churchill was behind that. So I don't adore him anymore, I just love him. Primarily for World War II, and his anti-Communism. He was a very smart man, he did know just what was what with the Communists, but no one would listen to him.