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To: Bob Lao-Tse who wrote (43109)	7/2/1999 6:15:00 PM
From: nihil	Respond to of 108807

My sentiments exactly.

To: Bob Lao-Tse who wrote (43109)	7/2/1999 6:34:00 PM
From: jbe	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 108807

Here comes the old fogey again. I don't think that most adolescents in our society -- especially adolescents as young as thirteen -- have the emotional maturity to handle what inevitably will be transient sexual relationships, even "sincere" and "caring" ones. Furthermore, I think you will find that a lot of them agree. Girls, in particular, often feel pressured into sexual relationships before they are ready. And remember something else, something I haven't seen discussed here. And that is that girls usually aren't as physiologically ready for sex as boys are. They don't have wet dreams, or wake up in the morning with erections. They don't feel the constant urge to poke "it" into any orifice they see...Girls generally need a little...um...practice before they get really libidinous. So I say, let them wait a bit before they begin practicing, if they can. I know of too many very young women who can no longer even remember how many men they have slept with. You can get jaded awfully fast, that way. And sometimes anticipation is so much better than the reality! That's what the romantics understood... Joan the Dinosaur :-)

To: Bob Lao-Tse who wrote (43109)	7/2/1999 6:37:00 PM
From: E	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

I agree with you. As I said, I was sexually curious as a child, and we allowed our son his own sexuality. He played the usual childish sex games, and from the time he was 15 he was having sex -- using condoms you may be sure -- with girls his own age. When we were out, we always called before returning home so as not to embarrass him or his girl friends. If a 37 year old married teacher with three children had seduced him and gotten pregnant by him, twice, destroying her own family, depositing the two babies on my doorstep, and putting his education in jeopardy, in fact changing his whole life forever, I would think she had behaved reprehensibly. What would you think, Bob?

To: Bob Lao-Tse who wrote (43109)	7/2/1999 8:06:00 PM
From: Father Terrence	Respond to of 108807

Another EXCELLENT post. Thank you!

To: Bob Lao-Tse who wrote (43109)	7/2/1999 8:20:00 PM
From: Jacques Chitte	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

>The simple fact is that teenagers are probably more intensely sexually aware than almost any other age group in our society, and we will never be able to stop that from being so.< I did not intend to obstruct this. My kids will be well-informed as soon as they are either willing or required to hear it. If they aren't willing at puberty's onset - they will be required. >we as a society want people to engage in sincere and caring sex with people they genuinely care about and the surest way to guarantee that is to at least allow if not encourage those at the very beginning of their sexual experimentation to engage in sincere and caring sex with people they genuinely care about.< Allow - yes. Encourage? I'm not so sure. Sex is imho a most powerful thing - and it can be gift or curse depending on how it is handled. I am grateful that while my parents were frank with me about reproductive issues, sex itself was something I learned from age peers. Indeed, my parents' sexuality was pretty effectively concealed from me. I see my job as teaching neither shame nor carelessness. I believe that I can be sexually liberated and yet practice and teach the high virtues of being discreet and selective. Sex is a big deal, Daughter - don't be miserly with it but don't squander it either.

To: Bob Lao-Tse who wrote (43109)	7/2/1999 10:17:00 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 108807

You're getting a lot of interesting responses, but my sense of the demographics is that those who agree with you are either childless or the parent of boys. The dynamics are very, very different when you are talking about girls or boys, I think. Maybe that is changing now with abortion, and birth control, so that girls are not quite so vulnerable to unwanted pregnancies. But there are a lot of facts you are ignoring. Condoms are only effective about 80% of the time, if used every single time, but the truth is that people who use condoms generally only use them when they think the female is fertile, which makes them less successful than rhythm. The pill is dangerous for immature girls, it can interfere with their hormonal development, leaving some infertile for years, if not life. The evidence is quite strong that girls who have multiple sexual partners before age eighteen are much more susceptible to the viruses that cause cervical cancer. Not to mention the psychological damage caused to girls by the hard-wired differences in agendas - girls want to mate for life, boys want to spread their seed. If girls become sexually active younger, that gives boys more opportunities to spread their seed, and I am not surprised when Nihil and FT give lusty cries of "right on!" And I am not surprised when Lather recognizes how vulnerable his little girl is, and all of a sudden (maybe, maybe he's been thinking about it for a while) realizes the down side to what is really male liberation, not really female liberation. I say as one who became sexually active early, and was exploited.