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To: Dayuhan who wrote (51114)	8/13/1999 8:54:00 PM
From: epicure	Respond to of 108807

I agree. What we are seeing now in Russia- the total collapse of services, the proliferation of mobs, etc etc- is extremely dangerous- first and primarily to Russians, but also to us, because Russians will get desperate for anything that will save them- just like Germany after the Weimar Republic fell. Desperation breeds the most awful things- and social or political or economic anarchy breeds desperation. There are things worse than the kind of communism that was practiced in the USSR (not that the USSR was "good" or that I would want to live there). With the foolish rhetoric of the Reagan years I do not think most people realized that.

To: Dayuhan who wrote (51114)	8/13/1999 9:01:00 PM
From: Jacques Chitte	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

There are other, smaller nuclear powers - and imo the proliferation will continue. If a small nation or a militant faction touches off a nuke somewhere within the borders of the G-7 - what would be an appropriate response? In many ways it's like arguing about the death penalty. "Nuke'm right back" is certainly satisfying to say but probably lousy policy. I do believe that complete nuclear disarmament is not a desideratum. Rolling back from armament levels sufficient for MAD is something to chew on however.

To: Dayuhan who wrote (51114)	8/13/1999 9:38:00 PM
From: Constant Reader	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Steven: Not to belabor the point, but the Reagan Administration played no role in the transition out of communism as that transition did not occur until the Bush Administration. No one knew that the collapse was imminent until it actually started imploding in 1989. Regards, Randy

To: Dayuhan who wrote (51114)	8/13/1999 10:57:00 PM
From: Michael M	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 108807

Hi Steven -- I read the Times piece. When Tyler does the book I will look for it in the Romance/Fantasy section at Barnes and Noble. China needs nukes for defense? From whom? Japan? Taiwan? Vietnam? The Philippines? The U.S.? I enjoy the discussions we've had but I'm beginning to get the feeling that nothing would make you happier than to see some non-European nation rub USA nose in the dirt. Hope I'm off base. I don't want to go through Tyler's article line by line but want to note just a couple of things. If a country has ONE nuke and an intercontinental delivery system, it's a problem. China is NOT poor in brain power or political will. "Communism" is an overused word. In Russia's case, "totalitarian" might have been more descriptive -- communism was the "sizzle" that the power elite used to sell the abuse. BTW, do you think Lincoln would have been wise to free the slaves gradually? There have been problems, as you know.