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To: Ilaine who wrote (52054)	8/19/1999 12:37:00 AM
From: Father Terrence	Respond to of 108807

CONGO DINOSAUR SEARCH The idea of dinosaurs surviving millions of years into the present in remote jungle regions has had universal appeal since Sir Arthur Conan Doyle fooled the Society of American Magicians in 1922 with some test animation sequences for the very first movie of The Lost World (1925). Since then, movies like The Valley of the Gwangi (1968), Baby (1985) and Jurassic Park (1993) have made box-office capital of the idea. But three Manchester lads – Adam Davies, Andy Sanderson and John McDonald – have taken that idea seriously enough to arrange an expedition to go to the Congo next October. Adam – a project manager for Cable & Wireless in Cheshire who says he "needs the buzz of adventure" – has not long returned from Sumatra where he failed to track down the orang pendek, a mysterious ape-like creature. His quarry this time is the Mokele-mbembe, a shy, vegetarian, brontosaur-like sauropod that could be up to 10m (30ft) long, thought to live in the Likouala swamps of northern Congo. forteantimes.com

To: Ilaine who wrote (52054)	8/19/1999 12:41:00 AM
From: Jacques Chitte	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 108807

Not quite sapience. Behavior learned by observation - other animals do this too. I'm pretty sure otters teach each other the rock trick. What is missing is language - the monkeys do not tell a story about this skill. Imo storytelling is a necessary condition for sapience. The dolphins are fascinating because they seem to have it "backwards" from the human perspective. Language without toolmaking or otherwise making a trace on the environment.