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To: E who wrote (58762)	10/12/1999 6:19:00 PM
From: jlallen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

One would never guess. JLA

To: E who wrote (58762)	10/12/1999 6:21:00 PM
From: Bill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Seems to me your hatred of Reagan colors your analysis of the man. Why don't you look at the big picture, as most of the world does?

To: E who wrote (58762)	10/12/1999 6:48:00 PM
From: Zoltan!	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 108807

>>The question of whether the Sandinista movement could have been combated via less brutal means, and by means less damaging to the established processes of American democracy, I gather is of no interest to you, since you are determined on a global embrace of every aspect of Reagan's presidency. I guess you forgot that Carter already tried buying them off. I guess you forgot that they were funded by the Soviets, a violation of the Monroe Doctrine, like Cuba. I guess you forgot that they had exported their violence to El Salvador and threatened to do so to other neighboring states. I guess you forgot that the Dems in Congress tried to bypass Reagan ("Dear Commandante") and get the Sandinistas to appear to tone down their oppression so they could stop aid to the Contras - a violation of law. I guess you forgot that the Sandinistas had been in the process of exterminating the Moskito Indians - genocide. I gather it is of no interest to you, since you are determined to loathe every aspect of Reagan's presidency. Here's one for the ages: From the August 1989 MediaWatch Page One A Toast for Totalitarians CELEBRATING THE SANDINISTAS The tenth anniversary of Nicaragua's ill-fated Sandinista revolution coincided with the tenth anniversary of favorable reporting on the communist government's intentions. On July 20, Washington Post reporters Julia Preston and Lee Hockstadter, for example, saw Ortega's dictatorship not as the realization of communist doctrine, but a temporary inconvenience caused by the Contra war, driving the Sandinistas to "radicalize their revolution, sharply curtailing civil liberties and starting down the path to socialism. Since 1987, they have stepped back from their hardest positions." Preston's tilt was no surprise: before joining the Post, Preston wrote for the Pacific News Service, an arm of the far-left Institute for Policy Studies, and for the pro-Castro North American Congress on Latin America. ABC News correspondent Peter Collins also trumpeted the Sandinista version of history: "They brought with them Marxist ideas about spreading wealth and creating a new, unselfish society. And in the first few years, they did manage to reduce illiteracy, the infant death rate, and launched the biggest land reform in Central America. But the Reagan Administration saw the Sandinistas as a threat and forced them into a war with the U.S.- backed Contras." J.D. Gannon of The Christian Science Monitor found the Sandinistas have "avoided the systematic violent excesses of their U.S.-supported neighbors...Nicaragua is the only country in Central America which vigorously prosecutes some of its own soldiers and officers." Preston and Hockstadter heard only kind words in Ortega's July 19 speech: "President Daniel Ortega struck a new conciliatory tone and appealed for national 'serenity'...Today, Ortega again reached out to his political opposition." But New York Times reporter Mark Uhlig heard something else: "'UNO is nothing...UNO is nothing'...The partisan rhyme, which was repeated throughout the speech and shouted back by the audience at Mr. Ortega's invitation, gave unusual prominence to the opposition coalition." Washington Times reporter Peter LaBarbera focused on a La Prensa poll showing 61 percent of Nicaraguans would say no to six more years of Ortega. But CBS reporter Doug Tunnell predicted on Sunday Morning July 23 that "if there were to be an election right now, Ortega would win." Does Nicaragua threaten the U.S.? No, they're more interested in "feeding and caring for their own people, keeping their promise of ten years ago, a revolution for the poor." He admitted "They haven't done that yet," but insisted "that's their number one priority." 9733.org Of course, when the people did vote, none were more aghast than the liberals and the media, who were wrong all along. Never mind.