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To: Charles R who wrote (77627)10/28/1999 8:55:00 PM
From: Paul Engel  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1571220
 
Chuckles - Re: "volumes (I was surprised that he could say that with a straight face just minutes after saying that they have shipped only hundreds of thousands of CuMines so far). "

Why ?

If Intel has shipped hundreds of thousands of Coppermines already, that means that Intel shipped, in just a FEW WEEKS, as many Coppermines as AMD shipped Athlons for the entire 13 week Q3 !!!

That means that Intel's Coppermine shipping rate is already about 6X that of AMD's Athlon.

And if AMD can ship 800,000 Athlons in Q4, well Intel may approach 6X that amount !

Paul



To: Charles R who wrote (77627)10/28/1999 11:21:00 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1571220
 
RE <<On Flash Intel is showing a massive increase in capacity-it looks like the glory days for flash are coming to end by the time 2000 is over....>>

I'M NOT SO SURE THAT WILL HAPPEN; I DON'T KNOW IF THIS HAS BEEN POSTED PREVIOUSLY, BUT ITS CALLING FOR INCREASES IN FLASH PRODUCTION BEYOND 2000:

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World chip market forecast to grow 15 pct in 1999

By Therese Poletti


SAN FRANCISCO, Oct. 27 (Reuters) - The worldwide semiconductor industry is expected to grow 15 percent this year, fueled by a proliferation of chips for communications and Internet infrastructure, an industry trade group said.

The Semiconductor Industry Association said on Wednesday in its annual forecast that sales of the worldwide chip market will top $144 billion in 1999, as the industry enters its first sustained recovery since 1995.

This forecast is higher than the previous SIA forecast. Last year, the SIA said it expected the worldwide market for computer chips to grow 9.1 percent to $133.4 billion, but as the sales improved, it upped its estimate to 12 percent.

In 2000, the SIA forecasts that sales will jump 21 percent to $174 billion, with continued growth of 20 percent in 2001 to $209 billion and reaching a record high of $234 billion in 2002, with a gain of 12 percent.

The SIA said this forecast represents the cyclical nature of the semiconductor business, which emerged last year from the longest-running downturn in the industry's history.

"This is the 'great year of recovery' for the semiconductor industry," said Brian Halla, chairman, president and chief executive of National Semiconductor Corp. <NSM.N>, in a statement. "Demand for semiconductors will surge due to proliferation of wired and wireless information appliances as well as Internet infrastructure products."

The SIA also forecast that DRAM (dynamic random access memory) chips will grow over 30 percent over the next three years, the first time that the memory chip market has seen positive sales growth since 1995.

DRAMs are expected to increase 31 percent to $18 billion in 1999, 39 percent in 2000 to $25 billion and 44 percent in 2001 to $37 billion. Sales will grow 5 percent in 2002 to $38 billion, due to the cyclical nature of the DRAM business.

The SIA forecast should be good news for the once-embattled world's memory chip makers, such as South Korea's Hyundai Electronics Industries Co. <00660.KS> Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd. <05930.KS>, and Micron Technology Inc. <MU.N> of Nampa, Idaho. During the recent industry slowdown, too much manufacturing capacity lead to sharp price cuts on memory chips, and a cutback on building new manufacturing plants.

"It's clearly good news for us and for our industry," said Jim Morgan, the chairman and chief executive of Applied Materials Inc., <AMAT.O> the largest maker of semiconductor equipment. "It clearly means they expect the demand for chips to be up for the next couple of years."

Morgan added that he believes the current industry recovery is a much broader one than past recoveries, because it is spread out over many different product lines, with chips in widespread use including in many consumer products.

Flash memory is likely to become the fastest-growing memory product, with expectations for flash memory sales to jump 63 percent this year, fueled by the use of flash in digital cameras and cellular phones.

"This is the first time that DRAMs have not lead a memory recovery," said Doug Andrey, a spokesman for the SIA. Flash should jump 63 percent to $4.1 billion in 1999, 36 percent in 2000 to $5.5 billion, 19 percent in 2001 to $6.6 billion and then slow down to one percent growth to $6.7 billion in 2002.

Companies in the flash business include Sunnyvale, Calif.-based Advanced Micro Devices Inc., <AMD.N>, Intel Corp. <INTC.O> of Santa Clara, Calif. and others.

Growth in the microprocessor market, which is dominated by chip giant Intel, will slow by historical standards, due to a maturing PC market, the SIA said.

Microprocessors will grow 11 percent to $28 billion in 1999, 17 percent to $32 billion in 2000, 14 percent to $40 billion in 2001 and 13 percent in 2002 to $42 billion. Last year, however, microprocessors were only up 5.6 percent.

Microcontrollers, a product area which includes digital signal processors and microcontroller chips, are growing faster than microprocessors for the first time. Microcontrollers are used in products such as set-top boxes.

DSPs, which are used in many telecommunications products and made by companies like Dallas-based Texas Instruments Inc. <TXN.N>, are currently the industry's fastest growing product line segment. DSPs will grow at least 30 percent from 2000 to 2002, the SIA said.

The microcontroller market will grow 16 percent in 1999 to $14 billion, 27 percent to $18 billion in 2000, 25 percent to $22 billion in 2001 and 18 percent to $26 billion in 2002.

21:57 10-27-99

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To: Charles R who wrote (77627)10/29/1999 11:27:00 PM
From: Process Boy  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1571220
 
Charles - <In response to someone's question about athlon hitting 1 GHz in H1 00. Paul O said Intel will be "competitive" (Can you imagine that? Mighty Intel will be just "competitive")...>

Competitve, yes. I have also been saying Coppermine would be "competitive" with K7 for the past several months. I think that's a fair assessment at the moment. I have no reason to believe that going forward, Intel will not continue to be competitive.

<and something to the effect that when Intel releases a product it will be in volumes (I was surprised that he could say that with a straight face just minutes after saying that they have shipped only hundreds of thousands of CuMines so far).>

Let's see, 100's of thousands of units since June vs. 100's of thousands of units in four days of officialdom. I know which curve I like :-).

PB