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To: Jacques Chitte who wrote (41012)11/4/1999 4:52:00 PM
From: Gauguin  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 71178
 
Yah. It's the not ending part. TIME, in the equation. Your logical brain, or ALL of it, tries to get past a moment, using tolerance and patience and strain, and it makes it through that smallest segment of time, and the same monumental problem, requiring the same monumental forces, is presented again. It doesn't stop. It doesn't "take a breather." No breathers.

It wears you out, ever so quickly.

It gets your attention. I don't mean it makes you realize, I mean it gets ALL of your consciousness. Takes the whole thing, wraps in a ball, a tiny ball, of literal agony, and leaves no exterior space with thought going on. It "localizes", to your consciousness.

Focuses it, like nothing else. But without any gain, and without any space left over in which to see a tree or hear a pleasure or love.

We don't realize our minds are generally free.

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I hate to say I've had a lot of that pain, because compared to pain masters, it's a possible, literal, thousandth. Some people never even experience it. I was talking with a 51 year old friend, and she burned herself a year ago, and we discovered it was the first time she'd been "in pain" in her life. There's a difference, primarily in duration. Sometimes, in intensity.

This country needs to get right with people who need meds to live. They have a right to Life.

The difference, in my opinion, is similar to inflicting the death penalty, for life, on someone.



To: Jacques Chitte who wrote (41012)11/4/1999 5:08:00 PM
From: Gauguin  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 71178
 
You didn't say how you burned your hand. How did you burn your hand, Lather? I BET you burned your hand MESSING with something.

Maybe not, but I'm just talking wagering odds.

Hee hee.

You know; I bet three dollars.



To: Jacques Chitte who wrote (41012)11/4/1999 6:25:00 PM
From: Ish  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 71178
 
<<But I did once burn my entire left hand ... and that hurt.>>

Burns hurt like a son of a bitch. When I blew myself up last year being stupid with gas and flame it hurt. Luckily I had been a medic in the army and had a clue, cold water. Lots of cold water. Then cold packs. For hours. Even when I was shivering. Took 10 days for some of the bigger blisters to form.

Back in the 50s my father got a steam burn on his whole right hand. I told them to put it cool water but what does a kid know. Butter was the treatment. His whole hand blistered. The next day the doc told him if he'd put his hand in cool water instead of using butter he wouldn't have had the blisters.

Odd. They sent me to school and we had a class on first aid. When it was needed they ignored me. Why make me go to the 4th grade?

My friends nephew was burned to the bone on his knees and had no pain. The burn center said if a burn is bad enough there is no pain, the nerves are kaput.



To: Jacques Chitte who wrote (41012)11/4/1999 11:21:00 PM
From: JF Quinnelly  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 71178
 
Man, do I hate burns. Fortunately I have never had a really serious one. But I used to get lots of 'hashmark' burns on my forearms when I worked at a pizza joint. The ovens were 500 degrees and they would scorch you in a flash.