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To: Apollo who wrote (11397)11/29/1999 3:08:00 PM
From: Jill  Respond to of 54805
 
Stan, I've printed that out. It helps me to focus on other companies I haven't had time to look at. Such as the mysteriously under-owned Siebel.

A mega effort.

Thanx again

Jill



To: Apollo who wrote (11397)11/29/1999 6:10:00 PM
From: lasersobe  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 54805
 
As a newcomer to this board I would like to thank you for a great job. It is very helpful.



To: Apollo who wrote (11397)12/1/1999 10:19:00 AM
From: tekboy  Respond to of 54805
 



To: Apollo who wrote (11397)12/1/1999 10:25:00 AM
From: tekboy  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 54805
 
Apollo did great work recently in compiling a survey of threadsters'
portfolio holdings (see post 11398, link above). For comparison,
here is what an earlier survey revealed many moons ago:

From: Uncle Frank Friday, May 28 1999 11:13PM ET
Reply #2323 of 11637

G&K Portfolio diversification analysis:

So far, LindyBill has the fewest holdings, but DaveMG would
seem to be the least deworsified. Otoh, since Dave bought
Q in October, he is probably the biggest % gainer for 1999.
4 of the 6 reporting have Gorillas as their largest position,
while 2 have Kings or Princes, a matter of debate <g>. That
may not be intentional - they probably just grew too fast <g>).
I'll keep adding to this as threadmates open up.

Number of Largest
Holdings Position Allocation

DownSouth 15 csco 26%
Tom Ardnij 10 aol 28%
DiB 5 athm 31%
Uncle Frank 4 qcom 44%
DaveMG 3 qcom 90%
LindyBill 2 qcom 80%

I'm not sure what this proves, but it will keep me occuppied until Tuesday.

FranQ

Interestingly, here's what was said a few posts later on, in regard to the results:

Many of us are completely happy to accumulate Silverbacks and aging Kings
and participate in the slow, safe ride they provide in their latter years.
But the Holy Grail of this thread is a young Gorilla, where we can take advantage
of the agility and momentum of its infancy.

Many of us think we've found that in Qualcomm; time will tell.

well indeedy it did, didn't it? <GGG>

tekboy/Ares@actuallygottaworknow.com



To: Apollo who wrote (11397)12/26/1999 12:28:00 PM
From: Uncle Frank  Read Replies (10) | Respond to of 54805
 
*** THE Y2K GORILLA & KING INDEX PROJECT ***

I hope you all had a wonderful Christmas holiday and are ready to go back to work! We agreed to rework the GKI between now and the end of the year, so here is the opening salvo.

BACKGROUND: I introduced the GKI a few weeks after the thread began. It was intended as a shopping list of Gorillas, Kings, and Princes with Attitude that our small gang of hunters had agreed on. Since the orientation of the thread is Emerged Gorillas and Royalty, we set a minimum market cap of $10B for inclusion in the Index. Each component was added with equal weighting based on an investment of a $10,000 at the close of the first day of trading in 1999 (an awkward decision on my part, since it put us out of synch with the universal method of computing returns based on the 1998 closing price).

I believe our Y2K GKI should reflects the actual investing decisions of the Gorilla Hunters after a year of hard work in refining our selection skills, and propose the following format:

1. Only consensus Gorillas and Kings should be included.
2. The market cap criterion of $10B should be retained. Those will smaller caps should be held in Justin's Watch & Wait Portfolio.
3. Only companies that are widely held (>10%) by the Gorilla Hunters should be considered for the GKI. Others should be held in Justin's Watch & Wait Portfolio.
4. The GKI should be a weighted index, reflecting the weighting in our "for real" portfolios, and we will use the closing price on 12/31/99 to determine our cost bases.

Fortunately, we will be able to build in the excellent efforts of Sir Apollo if the elect this approach (whew!). I've taken the liberty of "borrowing" his listing of widely held companies, and added a bit of data. The following were among the widely held that met proposed rule #3:


% Holding Mkt. Cap Classification Assignment
QCOM 96% $77B Gorilla GKI
GMST 58% $15B Gorilla GKI
JDSU 52% $52B King GKI
CSCO 49% $357B Gorilla GKI
EMC 34% $103B King GKI
INTC 21% $278B Gorilla GKI
MSFT 21% $608B Gorilla GKI
NTAP 20% $13B King GKI
CREE 18% $2B TBD W&W
AOL 17% $182B Godzilla N/A
LU 15% $245B King GKI
GBLX 13% $41B TBD TBD
CMGI 13% $33B Godzilla N/A
SEBL 13% $16B Gorilla GKI
SUNW 13% $118B King GKI
DELL 11% $135B Prince N/A
TLAB 10% $27B TBD TBD

That would give us 11 GKI selections and two possibilities that need discussion (tlab and gblx).

I'll look forward to your feedback.

uf



To: Apollo who wrote (11397)3/7/2000 11:27:00 PM
From: AMF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 54805
 
Sir Apollo
Re: portfolio survey

How time flies! I'm sure those portfolios have changed a lot since the survey was done - and it's only been a few months. It would be interesting to know where people are now in their thinking. For example, who is holding that dog Qualcomm now? <g> and by what percentage? anna