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To: Rambi who wrote (67903)12/21/1999 8:08:00 PM
From: epicure  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 108807
 
I would agree that (for example) the atoms in a given rock are arranged in a certain way, and moving within the rock in a given manner- and that it has an existence apart from my observation, completely related to the matter of which it is composed- so an objective reality. Because matter interacts with photons- and these bounce off my eye I can perceive the color and visual aspect of the rock. I will perceive it in a similar way as others of my species, but not exactly similar- and as a hominid I will perceive it in a different visual way than a bumble bee would. I could touch the rock and perceive it with my hands- probably in a similar was as other humans, but again not exactly similar. I would be able to feel if it was cool or hot, for example, or smooth or rough.

Of course if all this changed tomorrow and the universe suddenly became completely subjective and what I saw was what existed and not the other away around- then I suppose I could deal with that. But as of right now, I'll go with a semi-objective reality we perceive subjectively- and some of us more subjectively than others.



To: Rambi who wrote (67903)12/21/1999 8:12:00 PM
From: Alexander  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 108807
 
We can carry that "OBJECTIVE' routine back to Hitlers Nazi's who
were so brainwashed that they had no conscience, and in this country. I have seen the same disconnected' "nutcases" who
are one step behind Hitler's Nazi's. Objective means to act without conscience. I see it used by the Home Health Agencies
for my handicapped daughter. and I am in constant combat with them...