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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (90882)	2/1/2000 12:47:00 PM
From: Jim McMannis	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572188

RE:"Unfortunately, the difference in the benchmark numbers were rather negligible, which tells me that PC133 SDRAM isn't going to help Athlon all that much."... I for one never thought the VIA chipset would help that much. The Taiwan knockoffs never seem to. The good part is that the KX133 supports 4X AGP and DDR down the pike...and Micron is going to really push DDR. Jim BTW, do you know what a "sealed fab line" is?

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (90882)	2/1/2000 1:12:00 PM
From: kash johal	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572188

Tench, Well so far i agree with you. The kx133 seems to suck big time. AMD should be doing their own chipsets - for many reasons. Seems like an incredibly STUPID move on AMD's part. regards, Kash

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (90882)	2/1/2000 2:37:00 PM
From: Goutam	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572188

Tenchusatsu, re:Thanks for the numbers, Scot. Seems like the KX133 chipset performs at least as well as AMD's 750 Irongate chipset. Unfortunately, the difference in the benchmark numbers were rather negligible, which tells me that PC133 SDRAM isn't going to help Athlon all that much. Hmm... how did you come to this conclusion? I'm very curious why you picked PC133 SDRAM to be the culprit here out of so many other variables - KX133 chipset, drivers used, various bios settings, etc. Goutama

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (90882)	2/1/2000 3:19:00 PM
From: Petz	Respond to of 1572188

Tench, re:<Unfortunately, the difference in the benchmark numbers were rather negligible, which tells me that PC133 SDRAM isn't going to help Athlon all that much> KX-133 performance chart vs. chipset for 600 MHz Athlon from slota.com Chipset Winstone 99 Quake Arena 640 Quake Arena 1024 KX133 26.5 75.9 47.4 751 S/B Enabled 25.8 77.2 47.4 751 S/B Disabled 25.1 74.1 47.4 I'd expect much more performance increase at 800 - 900 MHz than at 600 MHz. Memory speed is not as significant a factor when running at 600. Also, Winstone 99 scores under Windows 98 are extremely compressed with respect to performance and only increase by about 10% with a 30% increase in CPU speed. Finally, the fact that the super bypass mode (S/B in the chart) has as much effect as KX-133 vs. Irongate begs the question: Does KX-133 support super bypass mode? And if not, when? Petz