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To: nihil who wrote (6898)2/29/2000 12:40:00 PM
From: Gerald Walls  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 24042
 
The internet -- a product of government sponsored innovation -- the human genome project -- a product of GSI -- computers a product of GSI. Our economic growth -- a result of government subsidized education and research.

This proves that subsidizing something encourages it. The internet didn't take off until the government got out of the way. I remember just a short time ago that commercial activity on the Internet was expressly forbidden.

The ability of wisely run government

There is no such thing. Governments are ran by those who will promise everybody anything in order to gain power and then will use any means possible to retain it.

to point the way, to susidize progressive change,

Rejected. Who decides what change is desired and what makes their opinion any better than the consensus of market?

to punish economic abuse (like MSFT),

Rejected. MSFT failed to bribe the appropriate government powers.

to choose "computer chips instead of potato chips" (in Bosworth's unforgettable phrase) show that compassionate, intelligent socialism is the wave of the future. Free markets are subject to hysteria, cannot foresee even obvious futures, care nothing for the weak and halt, need direction and control. Need to be protected from their own excesses.

Free markets will in the long run direct assets into the ventures that will provide the largest payoff, that is, to their best use. No system is perfect in the short term. Socialism only appears to work when it has a vibrant capitalist system to leech off of.

And thank you for assuming that everyone is so stupid that they can't make their own choices and take their own risks of their own free will. That's the implicit message in the leftist/socialist/Mama Government model.



To: nihil who wrote (6898)2/29/2000 9:28:00 PM
From: Master (Hijacked)  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 24042
 
OT -

Nihil,

The principles of socialism are noble. Everyone plays an equally important role in a society. Just like the spokes on a bicycle wheel, every spoke is as important as the next. Together the spokes give strength and make the wheel work.

The only problem is that we are NOT spokes in a wheel, we are human beings. And human beings are lazy by nature, always seeking an easier way out. Work is a necessity for most. If given the choice between working in a hot, sweaty office or lying on a beach somewhere in the Mediterranean I think most humans would choose basking in the sun. Socialism rewards laziness. You don't have to take my word for it, all you have to do is take a look around you. Look at all the able-bodied strong young men living on welfare and basking in the sun with your tax dollars.

I, for one, am able-bodied and working. For argument sake I propose you and 10 of your confreres send me a portion of your salary each week so that I may stay home and enjoy life at your expense while you work your butt off every day. What would happen if suppose a couple of my neighbors also choose to live at your expense? How much can you work and how far can you stretch your salary to support me and my neighbors?

Vince


PS - Capitalism is far far far from being perfect, but it is far better than the rest.