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Pastimes : Murder Mystery: Who Killed Yale Student Suzanne Jovin? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: paul ross who wrote (693)	3/21/2000 4:55:00 AM
From: Jeffrey S. Mitchell	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1397

I suppose one could argue that this is not really a "stalker" complaint, but an air of uncertainty still surrounds Jim and this case. That's why rumors are so vicious. Even if the smoke is manufactured people will still smell fire. A woman he had a relationship with 16 months prior speculates Jim might have been responsible for several hang-up calls and somehow suddenly he's rumored by the media to be a stalker. Say what? You also have to wonder what kind of person files a police report over "several" hang-up calls. I can see if there was heavy-breathing, threats made, etc. but just hang ups? Give me a break. I get hang-up calls all the time. Would this have been unusual? Given the note by Suzanne requesting contact if Jim had any problems, and the fact that both had either been reviewing the thesis or about to work on it, it doesn't seem a far fetched proposition. A probable occurrence? The note requested contact by e-mail. Yes, a professor contacting a student by phone (out of the blue) on a Friday night to invite them over to talk over a paper would have been highly unusual and you would expect Suzanne would have been suspicious and told someone. Peter also states that Suzanne is carring some 8 1/2 by 11 "papers". This I suspect would most likely be part of the thesis, a revision or addition, that she is bringing to the meeting with Jim. Suzanne had just dropped off her thesis late that afternoon. She then ran a pizza party she had organized. When could she possibly have found time to research and write a revision to a paper that had not yet been reviewed? I've always thought the white piece of paper was a flyer for a party and that perhaps Suzanne was on her way to one to see if any friends might be there. In reviewing the Vanity Fair article I note this line: "Most of Jovin's friends were partying that night: several were at the movies." Hmmmm... What has always occurred to me is that perhaps Suzanne was the type of person who like to "walk and talk" things over. To some, under stress, a long walk and discussion is a kind of therapy. But 1.8 miles? We're talking round-trip, at 9:30pm at night, after a long day of finishing her thesis and throwing a party, in a neighborhood she likely was unfamiliar, after telling someone how tired she was. Yes, scenarios where Suzanne walked to where she was found are quite possible but not very probable, IMO. Being unconscious would slow the heart and respiration rate, which might help explain the lack of a great deal of blood.Also, with the final cut to the neck being underneath her, much of the blood might have been hidden by her body. Blows to the head are still very bloody. Someone in a frenzy would be splashing blood everywhere. What about bloody footprints, places where the killer might have wiped off a bloody knife or hand, etc.? Blood spatter analysis can be very revealing, see: law.depaul.edu. - Jeff

To: paul ross who wrote (693)	3/21/2000 7:48:00 AM
From: daffodil	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1397

What has always occurred to me is that perhaps Suzanne was the type of person who like to "walk and talk" things over. To some, under stress, a long walk and discussion is a kind of therapy. But 1.8 miles? It's possble if the other person was somewhat of a "walker",too. We saw Jim in the 20/20 piece walking quite briskly and bicycling through New Haven.And Suzanne? We have this from an article written by her sister Ellen:(post 211) "She had a distinctive walk-fast, lively and purposeful-and the spirit of an explorer. During a September 1998 visit, she and her boyfriend, Roman, and I covered miles of Manhattan on foot." I've lurked through 693 posts on this board, but finally feel compelled to respond. Paul, your post makes a lot of sense to me. I've always felt that the "I'm stressed, I'm going to walk...maybe to the hockey game, maybe just walk" theory made sense. Or perhaps Suzanne had a friend--male or female--who was usually at home and open to visitors on Friday night. It was a Friday night with unusually warm weather. Who wouldn't feel restless and feel like walking? Especially when under stress. No homework, no class tomorrow...... I'll never forget the stress of handing in my honors thesis so many years ago. I burst into tears when I handed it to my advisor, who for that year had been my mother figure, father figure, you name it...and then I walked for over an hour in the arboretum, something I'd never done before, and then I walked to the house of a graduate student who worked with my advisor. She lived probably one mile from the arboretum. She wasn't expecting me, I just had to go to her house and cry some more about my struggles with my advisor. The pain I felt was created by the stress of the event. The struggles were illusory. I eventually got an A+ on my thesis, but I didn't know that at the time I turned it in. I felt that I'd failed miserably for the first time in my life. This is in large part why Suzanne's story resonates with me so......perhaps Suzanne was doing just fine in Jim's eyes, but in her eyes she may have felt that she was about to fail miserably for the first time in her life, and was feeling tremendous rage at what she saw as his inattention. Here's a hypothesis: Suzanne starts walking. When she gets to the vicinity of the hockey game, she runs into Jim, who, we know, went to the game for a short while. This is quite a coincidence. Somebody says, "let's talk." They start to walk. Jim says, "we can head toward my apartment, and then I can give you a ride home." Something goes wrong in the discussion...Jim starts to fear that Suzanne will complain about him to the dean. He can't afford that now. Rage takes over. He pulls out his Swiss Army Knife (surely he's the kind of guy who carries a Swiss Army Knife, as so many men do) and threatens her. She cries, "I can't believe you're doing this to me!" ....