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To: Jill who wrote (6786)4/21/2000 1:53:00 AM
From: Tim O.  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 8096
 
MSFT's report was disappointing. Hope this isn't the excuse the market is waiting for to take us to a lower low (could be nasty if that happens). Maybe we'll get that double bottom the technicians are looking for.

Sold MSFT and LU LEAPS purchased last week. Also closed other short put positions to raise available cash. Sold PMCS May90P, NT May90P, RFMD May65P, AMKR May45P, MLT May20P, TSM May40P. Hope to get out with quick profits, but think that these strikes will hold even on a downturn.



To: Jill who wrote (6786)4/21/2000 2:26:00 AM
From: YlangYlangBreeze  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 8096
 
Sounds like The OptionPlayer's Trivet logo. Succinct.
Okay, so that is good axiom explaining the rudiments of options. What if you own the stock you think is going down? Sell out and buy puts or...

For my own diversion, I was toying with the three things all those really smart people were able to drill into my coconut in Denver, to see what I can come up with. (One of the other things I learned is don't drink too much wine at high altitudes. Poet is an animal.)

I was inverting the synthetic long to see if I could come up with a synthetic short, having no money outlay. Because Black Scholes formula is Market and Stock Neutral, assuming equal likelihood of a stock moving up and down, ATM calls and PUTS theoretically cost about the same. (Likewise if they are both an equal amount OTM.)

Synthetic Long:
XYZ @ at 110:
Buy July 110 calls 18 5/8
Sell July 110 puts 17 3/4

Invert that for a "Synthetic short:"
Sell July 110 calls 18 5/8
Buy July 110 puts 17 3/4
In this scenario, you have to either own the stock or selling an uncovered call. Or you could be doing it on LEAPS. If XYZ is below 110 at expiration, the calls expire worthless. If it declines more your free put has value.

Danger: Stock goes up, you either have to buy back your call or it gets called away without the buffer of the $$ from having sold the call, cause you bought puts with it you dummy!

Just a mental exercise. What am I seing wrong?

joelle



To: Jill who wrote (6786)4/21/2000 7:55:00 AM
From: Poet  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 8096
 
Jill,

I love that quote from PMS Witch. :)

Selling covered calls is something those with level one options approval can do. Selling naked calls, I believe, requires the highest level of options approval because the potential for loss is (theoretically) infinite.

YYB asked asked a really good question. I know if one is bearish, there are bearish spreads that can be put in place on a stock or an index. I'm not familiar with the term "synthetic short" though.