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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (1666)	4/24/2000 6:32:00 PM
From: arun gera	Respond to of 12236

Peggy Noonan was a speech writer (or shall we say scriptwriter?)for Ronald Reagan. And you know that Reagan is revered by the conservatives. And WSJ leans to the right. You must credit her with providing good wholesome imagery, the kind-of-feel-goodness America loves. Whether it has any relevance to reality does not seem to matter.

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (1666)	4/24/2000 6:44:00 PM
From: marginmike	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 12236

The oil analysts I know all say the Iraqi Oil is comming through middlemen. Its in the market. The Elian thing I could care less about, I agree that these people in Miami are a litlle biased. I have no problem with the Govt doing that except I thought an apeals court says he cant leave????

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (1666)	4/24/2000 9:52:00 PM
From: Drew Williams	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 12236

re: Peggy Noonan's WSJ article I suppose reasonable people could disagree over whether Elian should or should not have been returned to his father's custody. I do not include Peggy Noonan in this group. As the writer of one of the great speeches of the twentieth century (Reagan's "Morning in America" speech,) I expected much more from her than the standard right wind vitriol. It seems obvious Elian would have been sent back to his father in about fifteen minutes had Elian been from anywhere other than Cuba. Personal history and deeply felt political considerations made his relatives lose perspective and do things even would consider crazy had they been done by anyone else under pretty much any other circumstances. This is how tragedies happen. I believe Janet Reno, the INS, and Bill Clinton acted with considerable restraint throughout. Perhaps too much, but they did have the memories of Waco to make them be careful. The photographs clearly show the INS agent's finger was NOT on the trigger. The bottom line though is that nobody got killed. Only a few egos got bruised. And it is immature to think of this in terms of winners and losers. Peggy Noonan, on the other hand, has used the occasion to trot out the usual list of Clinton offenses, some true and some not. In her mind, I believe, Clinton's greatest offense is that he is not Ronald Reagan. For what it's worth, I sent an e-mail to the WSJ reminding them that regardless of one's position on Elian, it was obscene for Peggy Noonan to compare the photograph of this incident with the famous Kent State photograph of the girl kneeling, crying over the dying student at her feet. There were photographs of Elian taken a few hours later of him smiling with his father. Posed, to be sure. But photographs made a few hours later of the four Kent State students would have been taken in the morgue. Violent death did not visit that Miami neighborhood that morning, and for that we should all be thankful.