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Politics : About that Cuban boy, Elian -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: The Barracuda™ who wrote (3479)	4/29/2000 12:23:00 AM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 9127

You know- I don't know where you get your information- but parents in Cuba are raising their children. They often live in extended families, or close by their grown children. I don't see that as parents having no "possession" of their children. How can you presume to know where happiness is to be found? And what "you want" for him? Why are you important at all? Wait- I can answer that- you are not important. What you think is not important. What I think (and how I hate to say this) is not important. What JUAN and ELIAN want is important. If self determination and freedom mean anything- they mean that this man and his son have a right (and the freedom) to go back to Cuba if they want to. (After the ALJ judge decides the asylum case, yada yada yada). If he doesn't have that choice, if we were to force Juan and/or Elian to remain here because we/YOU know best - we are as bad as Cuba. Or worse- because according to Juan he could leave Cuba and live here if he wanted to. But he says he doesn't want to. I wouldn't want to live here if I had been treated the way he has. I'd give everyone the finger to.

To: The Barracuda™ who wrote (3479)	4/29/2000 12:28:00 AM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 9127

I HEAR YOU!! You don't have to yell. No, I don't think it is clearcut at all; I think if you do, you are being simplistic. What YOU don't seem to get is that we have given Juan his choice and he chooses to return to Cuba with his son. We might wish it otherwise, but you don't have the right to take a man's son from him. In Cuba, he will still be Juan's son by their definition, however they label him and every other child there, and when Elian is 11 he will go to boarding school and work, yes, but he will still be part of Juan's family, he will still see his family on weekends and eventually he will join them again. This is the way Juan wants him raised. We cannot take this right from a father without being guilty of some of the same tactics we are fighting against. To say we are denying him happiness is ridiculous. We have done what we can with a miserable situation; we have offered asylum to the family. Don't confuse freedom with happiness.