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To: Petz who wrote (109492)	5/5/2000 3:56:00 PM
From: Goutam	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1578494

Petz, < BTW, the link did not work. Yikes.. you are right - it didn't work for me either. While trying to find out what had gone wrong, I came across this on ZDNET zdnet.com _____________________________________________________________________ AMD's Thunderbird advances Athlon Users will like the improved performance, but packaging alternatives could leave some customers frustrated. ... The overwhelming majority of Athlon-based PCs use the AMD 750 chip set, which has shipped more than 2 million units by the end of the first quarter, according to Mercury Research. Some performance enthusiasts have chosen VIA's KX133 chip set, which offers more high-performance features, including support for PC133 SDRAM and 4X AGP, than AMD's 750. The chip set supports PC100 and 2X AGP. These VIA customers appear to be out of luck in terms of upgrading. ... _____________________________________________________________________ If any get frustrated with Tbird incompatibility with KX133, it would be very few customers given that over 2million mother boards sold were based on the AMD chipset. The existing KX133 boards may drop in prices dramatically. This will also teach a valuable lesson to the Taiwanese motherboard makers that waited for Via's chipset to enter into the Athlon market, not to depend on Via. I suspect that the main reason for AMD's decision to rely on VIA was due to these Taiwanese motherboard makers - who were perhaps reluctant to support Athlon without Via's chipset. Here is the link to the ZDNET Timna article again - chkpt.zdnet.com Goutama

To: Petz who wrote (109492)	5/5/2000 4:39:00 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1578494

Petz, <A Katmai core? No other Katmai's were made on 0.18, or with SSE. The MTH hub to translate SDRAM to RAMBUS formatting will also slow the thing down. I'm getting less worried about this chip being any competition for Duron systems.> Katmai was the original Pentium III, a.k.a. P6 with SSE. In other words, all Katmai cores have SSE. Yes, it's pretty strange to call Timna's core a "Katmai core," given that Katmai is 0.25u and Timna is 0.18u. I guess "Coppermine core" would make more sense, but that could imply that Timna borrowed the Coppermine design. That might not be the case, given that Coppermine and Timna development took place at the same time at different ends of the world. So it could be that both Coppermine and Timna are based off of the Katmai core, but both design teams went their own separate directions, even though the results may be similar. As for MTH, yeah, it's a shame that Timna isn't going to debut on RDRAM. However, Intel seems pretty confident that in 2001, Timna will make the transition to RDRAM. In any case, Timna is aimed at a market which Intel is assuming cares more about cost and less about performance. If Intel's assumptions are right, Duron will have a hard time competing against Timna in that market. (Duron will probably be successful among customers who care more about performance than Timna's customers.) Tenchusatsu