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To: John Hull who wrote (103318)5/11/2000 12:57:00 PM
From: steve harris  Respond to of 186894
 
FUD alert!

Have you seen pauL?

Make it so,
Mysef



To: John Hull who wrote (103318)5/11/2000 2:28:00 PM
From: pgerassi  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 186894
 
Dear John:

Most analysis by those who publish is criticized by those who do not put theirs out to view. IMHO, there will be no semi down turn. Intel will fare worse in the future than those with rosy glasses that everyone seems to have on. Thus, it seems to hold up better than the news would currently indicate. If their reputation is lost or is downgraded, the premium (since the news is worse than the stock price would indicate) would be reduced. This means that Intel will trade at a much lower PE (forward) than now. Probably like around 20 (this level depends on how much its reputation suffers) yielding a stock price of around $50. Now since the stock is $113 this means that the reputation on Intel is allowing the stock to trade at a multiple of 2.26 over a no reputation. Although a bad reputation can even cause a company to be worth less than book (around $9.76). AMD is at a PE (Forward) of around 18.

Does your analysis include overhead? Like stock options, other losing divisions, etc? Most analyses of Intel I have seen do not take these into account. If you take out the Computation Group, Intel lost $400M in the last quarter. I believe this includes the division that manufactures flash. This is what their statements to the SEC read for the last quarter (just take the overall amounts and subtract one time gains, losses and the CPU div). So in any CPU downturn, even if CPU makes almost $400M, Intel starts having losses. What would they be worth then?

AMD was considered to be worth $16 at last downturn and their book value is $13.31 (per share). Thus in a large downturn in the CPU group only, letting flash and all other groups alone, AMD would be worth per share more than Intel. Intel better hope that the CPU market does not tank.

Pete



To: John Hull who wrote (103318)5/11/2000 4:18:00 PM
From: greg s  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 186894
 
John, re: A great example of why putting social security investment decisions back into the hands of the individual taxpayers may not be a universally good idea

Don't judge all investors by mssr. pgerassi's comments <VBG>! Some of us (I'm sure, including you) could do very well managing our own soc. sec. accounts.

Hope you are doing well.

Regards,
Greg.



To: John Hull who wrote (103318)5/11/2000 6:07:00 PM
From: Mani1  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
John re <<amazing analysis. A great example of why putting social security investment decisions back into the hands of the individual taxpayers may not be a universally good idea...I applaud your attempt, but suggest that there may be a few flaws in your reasoning>>

If there is point you do not agree with point it out. What is the "flaw" in Pete's reasoning?

If you do not have the time to deal with it just let it go, criticizing and demeaning him in such a condescending manner is very cowardly.

I found his argument very valid. And I have no idea what your logical argument is, assuming you have one.

Mani