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To: Paul Engel who wrote (107449)	8/13/2000 9:42:51 AM
From: Scumbria	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 186894

Paul, These added costs - which will require significant time and engineering resources - will have to be weighed against any advantages that an AMD CPU will have over an Intel XEON - which will most likely be limited to the silicon cost. Ergo, spending $50,000 of engineering time to save $200-$300 on an AMD CPU may not be a top priority on most busy IT managers agendas. In this scenario, the crossover point would be 250 CPUs before AMD has the advantage. Perhaps large corporations will go first? "No one ever got fired for buying a Col. Sanders Hamster." BTW: When 1GHz PIII was announced last spring, the official price was about $900. Now that they are actually "available", the price has gone up to $1150. During the same period of time, 1GHz Athlons have gone from $1200 to as low as $495. pricewatch.com Interesting, isn't it? ;^) Scumbria

To: Paul Engel who wrote (107449)	8/13/2000 11:13:11 AM
From: Elmer	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Re: "These added costs - which will require significant time and engineering resources - will have to be weighed against any advantages that an AMD CPU will have over an Intel XEON - which will most likely be limited to the silicon cost. Ergo, spending $50,000 of engineering time to save $200-$300 on an AMD CPU may not be a top priority on most busy IT managers agendas." The Xeon's added silicon cost is in the additional cache. If FudgeDumper is to be effective in an SMP environment it will need a big cache too. Assuming AMD can ever get SMP working that is..... EP

To: Paul Engel who wrote (107449)	8/13/2000 12:22:36 PM
From: Dan3	Respond to of 186894

Re: If server software requires modification, it will then require extensive testing and validation .... Ergo, spending $50,000 of engineering time to save... Exactly. And the modest changes required to get a performance boost from Sledgehammer will be far less difficult to implement, and far easier to validate than the major changes needed to keep Itanic afloat. It may very well be the difficulty and uncertainty inherent in attempts to validate code for Itanic's untested architecture that will end up sinking it. Dan