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To: Father Terrence who wrote (32036)	8/24/2000 11:17:20 PM
From: Krowbar	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

FT, It is the right wing that has politicized the global warming issue. This is no mere warming back up after a cooling down period. That the CO2 level is higher than it has been in thousands of years, and correlates closely with the burning of fossil fuels is a scientific fact, not a political opinion. << FYI, the geographic "North Pole" used to be in the area the Hawaiian Islands occupy today. What used to be occupying what we now call the North Pole was primarily water. >> The Geographic North and South Poles never move. They are defined as the points where the Earth turns on it's axis. It is the continents that move freely around the Earth. The poles are always the coldest places on Earth because they get the least sunlight. << At that time the two small continents under the Antarctic were free of ice... once about 30,000 years ago and sometime during the Jurassic period as well -- they are digging up dinosaurs there and have discovered huge oil fields. >> 30,000 years? A rapidly moving continent moves a couple of inches a year. In 30,000 years a movement of 6 miles would be pretty fast. The large dinosaurs were gone 50 million years ago. It is you that needs to bone up on science, not the scientists. And you need to start listening to them instead of wrong wingers. Del

To: Father Terrence who wrote (32036)	8/24/2000 11:31:20 PM
From: TigerPaw	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 769667

the ice over the North Pole has melted, for the first time in history Jeepers, you guys don't get out much. I think the stumbling block for you is that you don't understand what history is. History is the recorded events of our world by men (or women). Nobody was recording any events 30,000 years ago, (or if they had an oral tradition is has been lost). Nobody ever recorded the North Pole melting before. FYI, the geographic "North Pole" used to be in the area the Hawaiian Islands occupy today. JEEPERS!!, you mean that you got out of grade school with that kind of understanding? The continents may shift around over the surface of the planet, put North has been North for a long long time, ever since the time that the moon first formed and began orbiting and stabilized the wobble found in some planets. Maybe you are thinking about the changing magnetic poles of the planet. The North pole has been in the North about 6 billion years. the two small continents under the Antarctic were free of ice... once about 30,000 years ago and sometime during the Jurassic period as well Jeepers!, I can't beleive what passes for education around here, maybe you should have attended a public school.. When the Antarctic was ice free it was not in the same place on the globe as it is today. It was in a temperate zone. The world as a whole only rotates east-west and does not move around from north to south more than a few miles. It is the continents that are floating around to new positions. 30,000 years ago? JEEPERS!! 30,000 years ago was near the height of the last ice age. There was tremendous ice over the continents not to mention pack ice. The continents may be moving, but they aren't zipping around like sports cars. The fastest moving continents go an inch or two a year. So in 30,000 years Antarctica may have moved 60,000 inches or less than a mile. (maybe 2000 miles since the jurrasic) bad science -- politicized science You said a mouthfull here. Jeepers, you must be willing to believe anything people tell you without checking it out. As long as it's Rush. TP

To: Father Terrence who wrote (32036)	8/25/2000 8:18:58 AM
From: DMaA	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

Just yesterday, ( 10,000 years ago ) the continental ice sheet melted away from Manhattan Island. PNN - The Paleolithic News Network - had a cow (er... mammoth). Global warming is yesterday's news. ...that a short-term (from a climatological standpoint) cooling trend began about 600 years ago. The cooling trend is coming to an end and the Earth (a living, changing planet) is warming as it has warmed and cooled for millennia in its cycles. Much of the science about "global warming" is bad science -- politicized science.