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To: LemonHead who wrote (12915)9/21/2000 10:45:58 PM
From: LemonHead  Respond to of 18928
 
From the Archives of JZGalt:

Stock Selection Message 7675945

To: LemonHead who wrote (6762) From: JZGalt Friday, Feb 5 1999 10:36AM ET Reply # of 9350

Keith, CA is really simple. Buy stocks which have good eps growth rates and prospects that are selling cheaply and also have good chart patterns. That's it. No voodoo involved. There's every reason to apply these very simple concepts to AIM when making the initial purchase. However, some of the criteria which CA uses would be too limiting for AIM and the selections would not be very good candidates IMO, but you can apply the concepts if you add in a criteria of a high beta. If you run the screen without the p/sales criteria you should get the AIM stocks which would pass a fundamental analysis screen. It also helps if you start to buy the stocks part way down in their p/e range. For example, today JBL is getting whacked because of the news from SCI. I don't see anything in the SCI report that would indicate that JBL would be having the same problems... In fact JBL might be causing the problems at SCI so why is JBL down today over 5 points? Duh! I guess the analysts just wanted to restock Tom's warehouse. ;-) Unfortunately for me, I didn't bail when the chart turned negative yesterday (I use 65 day EMA). So I'll just ride this out. Fair value on JBL is about $50 ($2.50 forward eps X 20). Downside risk is $38. CA principles would tell you to wait until the stock quits dropping before making the initial purchase. Use a simple 65 day EMA and wait until the stock rises above that before jumping in with both feet. 20 day EMA give's you the short term direction. BTW, my take on the market as a whole is 1050 on the S&P is possible over the next 2-3 months. So take your time in selecting stocks and use Tom's IW cash levels to allow you to buy into this correction. Good luck. ---- Dave
Message 7678952

To: Tom Veale who wrote (6766) From: JZGalt Friday, Feb 5 1999 12:28PM ET Reply # of 9350

Confirmatory Analysis is another website I run with some friends. Part of the methodology is to establish positions in high eps growth stocks at points in time when they are discounted. I created a stock screen which could be easily adapted for finding AIM stocks and I wrote about it when the website first came up in mid-December. Basically the search is based on finding stocks which have 5 year eps numbers of 25%/year or more as well as 3yr and 1 year eps growth greater than 25%.
confirmatoryanalysis.com

If you deselect the p/sales screen and then go to the bottom and insert a high beta, you get a quick and dirty list of potential AIM candidates. ---- Dave
Message 7703506

To: JZGalt who wrote (6760) From: LemonHead Sunday, Feb 7 1999 1:40PM ET Reply # of 9350

Dave, Been working with CA and in reference to the examples of VTSS & GALTF in post #6760, Did you pull these from the Stock Screen that you ran? Under the heading: 0. ConfirmatoryAnalysis.com Criteria: I set Price to Sales: to Any. Under the heading: 6. Price & Share Info I set Beta: to Any and Min: to 1.2 Since I don't get the two mentioned above, I'm wondering if I am setting this up correctly. Keith

It was a wonderful start and a very hard finish...

Keith



To: LemonHead who wrote (12915)9/22/2000 10:37:51 AM
From: labestul  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 18928
 
You gotta be kidding. You must be trying to bring Savage out of the Wood work. My pencil is round not square rooted.

Well I'm out!!! Now isn't that your worst nightmare!

Actually this reminds me a filly that I once owned who would only race in the dark. She was a real night mare.

And then again was the elected leader of my home town who insisted on attending every city council meeting dressed in a full set of silver armor. He was without a doubt the very worst KNIGHT MAYOR I have ever known!

But now on to some Greek things. A question was raised about r squared in relation to beta. This arises in the context of measuring investment return on stocks (among other things).

Suppose I draw a graph as follows. Along the horizontal line I have the return on the overall market which could be represented by a stock index for example. Now suppose along the vertical axis I have the return of a particular stock in which I am interested. Finally suppose I have the history of returns over a prior period (one year for example). Then for each date I could mark a point on my graph. For example if on January 2nd of last year the index return had been 10% and the stock's return had been 12% I would mark a point 10 units to the right and 12 units up from the center of my graph. I would do this for all my data.

I could then ask myself two questions:

(1) does the group of points suggest any pattern to me?

(2) if yes, can I use this pattern to project what will happen to my stock return if the market return reaches such and such a level?

One approach to resolving these two question is to use a mathematical technique and set of formulae called linear regression. This technique assumes that the answer to the first question is YES and that there is a strait line relationship between the market return and individual stocks rate of return. The formal equation of this line involves two estimated parameters called alpha and beta. These parameters are estimated using a technique which minimizes the distances between the plotted points on the graph and the corresponding points on the estimated line. This particular techniques is called "least squares error minimization" (or variations thereon). It is however not necessary to know how this technique works simply to interpret and use the results.

For those who remember basic analytic geometry BETA is simply the SLOPE of the regression line. But weather or not one remembers is irrelevant. We all know that one use of BETA is as a measure of the volatility of the stocks return (and hence also its price) in relation to the market.

The problem with this whole approach however is that we have made an implicit assumption that the relationship between the overall market return and that of the stock's return is LINEAR (i.e. a strait line). In practice this might not be true. We could check this in at least two ways.

First we could obtain the data upon which the calculations for BETA were made and then plot this data in a graph. We might then be able to see if all of the points tend to lie along or close to a strait line. Not only would this be a lot of work but in general we don't have that data.

Therefore the mathematical technique of linear regression also produces a measure of fit called r squared (sometimes RHO squared ......... but that's Greek to me). The closer that r squared is to one ... the better the fit ... that is the more the graph of dots resembles a strait line.

And so in a nutshell that's it. R-squared is a measure of how confident we are in the BETA.

Hope this helps,

Barry



To: LemonHead who wrote (12915)9/22/2000 2:17:14 PM
From: steve in socal  Respond to of 18928
 
yo 'head,
i archived barry's response and as soon as i can get it translated, i'll let you know what i think.<g>
interestin you should mention dave as i've been meaning to ask you where he would be at now that oil has risen to the levels he was talking about in late '98.

don't own INTC, but wondering if now is the time to get on board.

pontificating in petaluma