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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: epicure who wrote (1037)	9/23/2000 11:49:41 AM
From: Solon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

How well said! I, too, can still remember the magical thinking of a child! One thing really annoys me: That is, when educated and articulate people reverse the process of, facts and premises first, conclusion last into, conclusion first, and interpret the facts in whatever manner is necessary to make them fit the conclusion... When these people assume a leadership role, and knowingly subvert and distort logic, in order to justify something contrary to what naturally follows from the facts and premises--this angers me. There is a link I sometimes refer to, when getting the view from across the road--as regards biblical texts. If you click on any book and chapter, you will soon find yourself following convolutions of thought, that are meant to justify (as an example) the murder of innocents--or maybe some less drastic verse or passage. The sophistry is as clear as the receptacle it is meant for. It can become very irksome... apostolic.net

To: epicure who wrote (1037)	9/23/2000 12:13:05 PM
From: Solon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

I just read some requests for prayer on another thread (you probably know which one), and it made me think: As kind and well intentioned as the motive is...how can they assert that God has preordained all events, while still believing that they can intercede with prayer? Would it not be better simply to do the best they can to help others through problem solving, rather than praying for a result that they claim to believe cannot be altered? I suppose that if one starts with the premise that God has preordained ALL--that there would not be a logical distinction between prayer or action. However, if one is going to violate the coherency of their own beliefs...would doing not take precedence over begging, simply by virtue of the fact that "beggars can't be choosers?" Well...maybe that was a lame joke. The empathy to help others is a worthy thing, and I would never disparage it.