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To: Bruce Brown who wrote (32579)9/29/2000 9:23:45 AM
From: the hube  Respond to of 54805
 
Bruce

The consolidation in the space is interesting since your report was written. Worldcom's purchase of Intermedia and now the Exodus purchase of Global Crossing's web hosting unit. Would you say the leaders today are:

Exodus
Worldcom
Intel
Level 3
Qwest
Akami
GTE
AT&T


I was going to say that you shouldn't leave out GENU, but then I saw you have GTE, which I think you should rename. I think they will do quite well in this royalty game, and IMO they are quite undervalued at this point (under $7B market cap, with $2B in cash).

John



To: Bruce Brown who wrote (32579)9/29/2000 10:58:21 AM
From: sditto  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 54805
 
<<"The U.S. Web-hosting business was worth $1.7 billion US last year, according to research firm International Corp., and is expected by 2004 to grow to a $17.6 billion market.">>

Another company you may want to consider in your review is SunGard systems (NYSE: SDS). SDS has a relatively low profile but provides a variety of data center, web hosting, transaction processing, and network management services primarily to the financial industries. This year SDS will process more than 70% of the trades on NASDAQ and will continue to benefit from the long term growth of stock market trading.

In Gorilla Game terms, SDS has bundled their products into a series of solutions which create a transaction processing architecture with both enabling technology and application components. Because financial customers are reticent to trust just anyone with their mission critical transactions, SDS has created high barriers to entry and high switching costs.

On the financial side, SDS has a diverse set of profitable revenue streams and generated TTM revenues > $1.5B, net income > $170M, net profit margin > 12%, and Y/Y growth > 20%. (Interesting to note that SDS had revenues almost equal to the IDC estimate for the total web hosting market this year.) Near term logical extensions to their business include moving beyond the traditional financial industry into the developing energy trading business and to B2B exchanges which need to process financial transactions.

I'm just beginning my own DD and have some concerns (can they move beyond their niche, can management play the Gorilla Game, etc.) but they appear to be a reasonably valued company in a space typified by high valuations, uncertain revenue streams, and low barriers to entry.

If nothing else, it's worth studying the SDS business model today since it represents what those other companies are aspiring to be when they grow up. <vbg>



To: Bruce Brown who wrote (32579)9/29/2000 3:13:03 PM
From: Apollo  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 54805
 
EXDS....

I wonder if you could comment on the announcement to purchase Global Crossing's web hosting unit. That gives Exodus 32 IDCs around the globe and raises their customer base to 3,800.

Sure. Let me study it over the weekend and get back to you.

A couple points. I presented EXDS to the Thread last December, and updated the thread thru the Spring of this year. I exited Exodus, despite being the market leader in Web Hosting with excellent execution to date and in spite of what seemed to me to be very good management. I exited because I had decided that EXDS was clearly in a royalty game, because it had no barriers to entry, and because revenue growth was extraordinary but decreasing, from Qtr to Qtr of 40+% to ~ 30%. Moore has said to dump royalty at the first signs of slowing growth.

Exodus and Global Crossing tried to do a deal in the Summer, but it fell thru then. I will review the Exodus threads, and some of the recent articles, and try to hear last quarter's conference call. I'll get back to you.

best,
apollo



To: Bruce Brown who wrote (32579)10/2/2000 5:27:34 AM
From: Apollo  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 54805
 
EXDS

(warning: long post)

I seem to remember you did the Hunt report on Exodus. I wonder if you could comment on the announcement to purchase Global Crossing's web hosting unit. That gives Exodus 32 IDCs around the globe and raises their customer base to 3,800.

OK: I've done some reviewing of notes, etc. Prior posts of interest on EXDS can be found here (but remember that SI's old post numbers may be off by 1 or 2):

Exodus Overview
Post # 12458
Message 12230572

Exodus Revenues history, and projected…1997-2000
Post # 12768
Message 12281266

Exodus CC, 1/27/00
Post # 16632
Message 12701259

Important posts on TMF thread:

Exodus Summary, by Exdstasy
TMF #1601
boards.fool.com

Web Hosting has been hot, growing with the demands of the internet, as corporations outsource their data traffic to "server farms". Exodus is the undisputed market leader, and has been running at a full sprint to keep ahead of the competition (lots of princes). Exds leverages its co-location services by providing value added services, including managed services and application services. By doing all of this, it increases its number of customers, and the number of services it sells to each customer. Therefore, revenue per customer has been going up steadily, and the number of customers it serves, has been going up steadily.

In reviewing my notes, there are a couple of things that stand out:

1. Each qtr, Exodus adds another 500-600 customers. This seems to have continued since I last reported on EXDS on this thread in April.

2. Revenues per customer, 2nd qtr, 1999, were at about $150,000 estimated. By 2nd qtr, 2000, they stood at $259,000 per customer. Value added services are attractive to customers, and they are buying. Moreover, EXDS raised prices 10% earlier this year. By July, the CEO stated that they have sustained this price increase successfully and it will continue. Likewise, by July, the CEO stated that the "churn rate", ie loss of customers to competitors, was going down, from historically 2% to 1.4%. I had noted in the past that this royalty model executed by EXDS might be stickier than we think, and the above figures would support this contention.

3. Entering 2000, they originally stated they wanted to nearly double their count of internet data centers to 32. They subsequently revised that upwards to 34, then to 36. Adding Global Centers, from Global Crossing, will add an additional 10 centers. BTW, these centers are becoming profitable faster than anticipated. Originally projected times to EBITDA positive were about 12-18 months; EXDS is seeing centers turn positive within 6 months. EXDS, overall, turned EBITDA positive earlier this year, and is expected to turn a profit by First Quarter, 2001.

In April, I made some other comments:

"Overall, EXDS continues to win over large numbers of new customers, without losing hardly any. They are the King in this space, they are the first mover, and clearly they are increasing revenues per customer by adding value added services, including cacheing (Inktomi), rapid content distribution (Mirror Image), web hosting metrics, and especially security (Network Solutions; security and firewalls). Many have speculated that the Web Hosting model as executed by EXDS, is stickier than it may seem at first glance, because of the integration of all these services.

On the downside, revenue growth is slowing, which may be expected as the company grows. But I find this troubling because the competition, ie Global Crossing, Intel, etc. hasn’t even gotten off the ground yet."


Well, since then, Global Crossing chose to exit the Web Hosting business, and Intel has had some success, but has < 10 internet data centers, and has not made much impact. I guess the main competition is WorldCom, which subsumed Digx. EXDS, thru the deal with Global Crossing, insures or commits itself to making extensive use of Global Crossings pipes for data transmission, without having to "buy" or "install" the pipes, and carrying the capital expenditure related thereto.

What's the bottom line?

1. EXDS is the cream of the crop in this capital intensive field, which is a pick & shovel play on internet growth and internet infrastructure.

2. Buying out Global Centers eliminates what had been their main competitor, and allows EXDS to grow faster still. I would guess that EXDS will by year end have at least twice, and possibly 3X as many internet data centers as WorldCom/Digx. And EXDS has sufficiently proven that it can raise prices on customers, yet lose fewer customers, while continuing to add customers. And it can increase revenues/customer.

Unresolved Issues/Concerns:

1. I don't actually know how many internet data centers WorldCom has, or how efficiently it increases revenues/customer, etc. So I don't have a handle on the competition. Maybe someone on this thread who own WCOM can chime in here on this issue. I also don't know their stated plans or goals in Web Hosting. I do know that WCOM is many things, with many divisions, and is focused accordingly on many targets. I know EXDS is focused on 1 target, specializing entirely in Web Hosting.

2. I don't know how many customers there are out there. Predictions are that internet growth, web hosting growth, and e-commerce will grow exponentially over the next 4-7 years. I think EXDS is positioning itself nicely here. I also don't know how capital intensive their IDC's will be to maintain years from now, or the costs of that maintenance. I do know that EXDS had been experiencing > 40% qtr to qtr growth, but then reported in 1st qtr, 2000, sequential growth of 32%. I bailed, and put that money into NTAP in the spring. In 2nd qtr, 2000, EXDS reported sequential growth of 34%, up from its predicted growth of 25% on which it had given guidance.

Overall, EXDS is a royalty play. It is the Dell of its field, which is clearly in a tornado. I've said many times that I like management. Nothing's changed. Web Hosting is stickier than we have expected it to be; but there is certainly no open proprietary architecture here; no hidden or unique applications software or enabling hardware.

I think it is a good investment for the long term, as long as one watches management carefully, and follows the conference calls each quarter, taking careful notes.

My problem, in being of limited means, is this: where should I put my money? I think Storage is a better place, and both EMC and NTAP, in my view, are better Kings (or gorillas) in their space. Likewise, I have my eye on CREE and WIND. Both offer the potential to be Gorilla candidates, and the CAPs that go with the pongid breed.

Bruce, I hope these comments are helpful. I'd like to hear your views on things, or from anyone else.

best,
Apollo