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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: cosmicforce who wrote (2585)	10/25/2000 2:38:32 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 28931

I don't know if you are aware of the fact that the Church is not opposed to birth control, just artificial birth control. The Billings method, which the Church approves, involves monitoring and charting basal temperature and cervical mucus. It is more effective than condoms or diaphragms, and far cheaper and less harmful than birth control pills or depo-provera. Saving sex for marriage keeps women from being exploited as sex objects. I don't condemn extramarital sex, but I do think that women get exploited. woomb.org

To: cosmicforce who wrote (2585)	10/25/2000 3:13:09 PM
From: Solon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

This is difficult to respond to. Jefferson wrote a lot, and much has been written on him--so stating a few vague opinions from memory is something that I will apologize for in advance. I wish I could say that I believed that all Jefferson's high ideals truly reflected a belief in equality of people's rights. But I can't. He seemed to believe in a philosophical and potential equality; Yet he acted as if some people were...well...slaves. I think I know how he was able to ignore a type of ethical philosophy in favor of his pragmatism. Jefferson was a man of the intellect. For him and his peers, slaves were inferior, as having meager intelligence. I don't know if it occured to him that any of us, deprived of education, and constrained from honest self expression, would present a very credible argument for human value as measured by some arbitrary standards of intellect. This was before Binet, et al. Oh, Hell. It can't really be defended, can it? He wanted it both ways. He comes off badly because of the age he lived in (as compared to our hindsight perspective), and the ignorance in his heart. This applies to Jesus, and it applies to you...and it applies to me.