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To: bobby is sleepless in seattle who wrote (4661)10/26/2000 2:10:14 PM
From: bobby is sleepless in seattle  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 8046
 
msft has remained strong for the day, trading near the highs,,, 64 appears to becap with 62 13/16 the bottom for the past couple hours...

fwiw...



To: bobby is sleepless in seattle who wrote (4661)10/28/2000 7:14:46 PM
From: bobby is sleepless in seattle  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 8046
 
thru the trading day, there are certain areas which i focus on, maybe stock specific, index related more common...these points tend to provide areas for decision making...

anyway, i refer to them as pivotal points...

and the wiser are now expanding upon the subject which I find of great interest...

fwiw

Message 14679182

To: Threei who started this subject
From: Threei
Saturday, October 28, 2000 1:06
PM ET
Reply # of 126

PIVOTAL POINTS

Both Chris and I are asked frequently how we pick our stocks to watch.
I would like to describe this process.

The major idea is to go where activity is. Several ways we use to find it:

1. In the morning our indication of activity is gap. When we find stocks
gapping up or down, we look for a news that caused gap. We do not
predict what happens to the stock after open. Purpose is rather to filter
out those that are too dangerous (for instance, if stock has news
including SEC investigation we are more cautious). Also, past
experience and common sense might give useful hints. Simple example:
FDA rejection would probably cause much harder reaction to the one
product company than to company that has 5 other drugs in the
pipeline. We also evaluate execution risk and filter out stocks with huge
spread, big gap between levels etc (the way they trade might get
changed when market is open so we still keep an eye on those).
Next step is detecting the trend. Gap direction is not necessary indicator
of the trend. For instance, ADCT gapped up yesterday and shown clear
downtrend since, which led us to several plays on the short side.

2. Intraday search for activity involves unusual movements and/or
volume. When stock pops up on scanners as unusual mover it becomes
a subject of interest.

3. Pivotal points. This is the most interesting subject since they have
two meanings: first, stock approaching them usually becomes subject of
readable activity and second, the way stock acts near the pivotal points
defines the trend, allows to see if trend reverses or continues.
Those are intraday high and low, opening price, yesterday closing price.
Also levels that are being watched by TA players, like 200 MA and
some others. To some extent whole numbers might serve as pivotals.

Let me make it clear that we do not use these points to predict what
stock does when approaches them. We use them as watching points and
make our decision based on patterns stock shows. Let me site couple
examples:

a) stock approaches yesterdays's closing price 25 after gap up. After
some pause and upticking to let's say to 25 1/8 selling hits again and 25
level gets penetrated. We short the stock when it happens, setting the
stop at 25 3/16 since stock couldn't get over 1/8 last time. Breaking
down from the range as typical scenario is identified as a reason for
entering the trade in direction of break.

b) stock approaches 200 MA level with increasing pace and volume,
near critical level it looks like real panic. Furious selling pauses, and after
some perplexity stock shows strength. We buy stock setting the stop
right under level of support. Capitulation phase was identified as a
reason for the trade.

So, algorithm looks like:
1. Finding area of activity
2. Identification of scenario
3. Putting on a trade when signal appears
4. Setting mental stop at the level that indicates scenario failure.
5. Monitoring the stock for exit scenario/signal

We plan to put some charts of actual trades called on our webpage with
explanations and references to principles and scenarios applied.

Vadym