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To: jmac who wrote (86817)11/9/2000 11:27:04 PM
From: Cooters  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 152472
 
jmac, I had a long talk with a friend of mine from Jupiter, the northernmost area of Palm Beach County. He indicated the ballot was not the best, not the worst. He also said there was a large sign in each booth about asking questions if anything wasn't clear and getting a new ballot if you made a mistake.

Contrast that with what happened in St. Louis. Non-registered voters were still voting up to 3 hours after the polls were supposed to be closed.

Cooters



To: jmac who wrote (86817)11/9/2000 11:33:42 PM
From: Win-Lose-Draw  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 152472
 
That memo will be introduced in the state court action as evidence of the massive confusion.

If this is true - and I have no reason not to believe it - it points to a problem that should be looked at. Whatever bipartisan process (and it was a bipartisan process) was used to (at this point arguably) put a confusing ballot before the public should then be fixed. I have no problem with this.

The problem is how we resolve this election, right now. There is no way you can have some sort of revote in only that county. Selective after-the-fact voting is simply unfair to the rest of Florida's voters, and if you take them into account and allow a state-wide revote, it is then grossly unfair to every other voting American. I cannot imagine a situation where a court would allow either situation, nor can I imagine an American populace full of justifiable pride in American democracy allowing such a thing.

Which means we either recognize that we are all human, that irregularities happen in every election, and gracefully accept the best-effort vote (re)count now being done - whichever way it falls - or we all march right back to the polls in another nationwide orgy of voting.

Either way, the legal wrangling being initiated by the political parties and their minions needs to stop, right now, before we do serious damage to what is the greatest, most vibrant democracy on the planet. We need to let the folks in Florida do their constitutional duty - as they are currently doing - and then we need to accept the result, whichever way it falls.

We do not need thinly veiled threats to use the courts or political means to do an end-around of the voting process. A careful recount was going to happen anyway, it DID NOT need the horrible rhetoric being spouted by certain participants in the political process.



To: jmac who wrote (86817)11/10/2000 8:14:02 AM
From: marginmike  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 152472
 
Rules are rules, and you cant change them in the middle of the game. Al Gore is destroying the democratic party. R Hayes, and Richard Nixion were encouraged to litigate by their advisor's. Neither did because they understood this. Al Gore lost, he shouldnt have but he did. Its like a football team Fumbling on the 1. They made a mistake, even though they should have won. Should the fumble rules be changed? The rules and ballot's were agreed on before the election no?