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To: Scott C. Lemon who wrote (34803)	11/13/2000 2:26:41 PM
From: kilo_watt	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 42771

Fred, I can promise you that Scott is not being used to "deflect attention elsewhere." You need to understand the relative importance of this board to Novell. It is virtually zero. And frankly, that's as it should be. While I think Novell needs to do more to include customers in it's planning and strategy (and to be sure, it is trying harder to do this), I honestly don't think there is any value whatsoever in opening the kimono to a bunch of loudmouthed shareholders. Just because one can afford the $7 it takes to buy a share does NOT qualify them to offer any leadership to the company. That said, I am quite certain that Scott posts here only because he wants to and for no other real reason. Further, hardly anyone at Novell reads this board, and certainly even fewer people actually give a shit about what is said. To be incensed about that is only to fall victim to one's own overinflated ego. And again, frankly, that's as it should be. So, please, Fred. Stop attacking Scott. Stop blaming him for anything.

To: Scott C. Lemon who wrote (34803)	11/13/2000 10:30:10 PM
From: Frederick Smart	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 42771

Threats & The Final Straw.... >>I really find it so interesting that you insist on your personal attacks against me. No matter what I do, I am "wrong" in Fred's eyes ... and I am a part of the fairy tale sinister actions being performed at Novell ... I was once a "good guy", but now have "turned" ... there is no other explanation that Fred can come up with.>> Scott: There's nothing sinister about you or Novell. Your perspective is biased. You are "inside" Novell. How could you say otherwise. I am simply reflecting a different paradigm. And I have every right to express how I feel. >>>> I'm deeply ashamed at the way they have used Scott Lemon's integrity to deflect attention elsewhere. Scott's going to get what's his, etc. "Right vs. Wrong" mean nothing in a paradigm that couldn't care less about anything and anyone outside of it's internal power/politics.>>>> >>I want to suggest that you be very careful at how you want to play this game Fred. If you continue to make such insulting comments about me, and my integrity, I will promise you that I will make sure that you are fully exposed for what, and who, you are.>> I'm not insulting you. I'm making a comment about those you work with. If you take this personally, may I suggest that you are projecting anger that's misplaced. >>There are legal issues at this time that might prevent me from talking about what I'm doing at Novell right now, and what I am aware of, but when the time comes, please be sure to understand that I can be as ruthless and brutal as you would like to be. You have stepped over a line that I believe in several times now ... and I am warning you to be very careful.>> If you perceive me to be "ruthless and brutal" may I suggest that this is, once again, misplaced anger being projected on the wrong party. I will freely accept whatever anger you want to heap on me, however. I have nothing personal against you, Stewart Nelson or anyone inside Novell. I am long on Novell stock and it's overall technology. I have a problem with Novell's leadership. Period. Keep it simple. Your insight, creativity, knowledge and skills are unquestioned in my mind. And I believe you could be a great leader if you believed in yourself enough to really want to take on this role. >>>> I know, I know, it's all just Frederick Smart's way of perceiving the world. I am proud to share these views. Novell is being looted internally and externally. And Scott is there getting "what's his".>>>> >>I'll suggest that you would be truly ashamed of your behavior if you would look yourself in the mirror for once ... but you are just too caught up in your story ...>> I look at myself in the mirror everyday Scott. Do you know who's the greatest at unmasking others: kids. I spend a lot of time with kids, both my two boys and others - coaching, singing, sharing, living. I let the kids decide for I feel like one of them. >>It's really too bad ... you don't even see that you are destroying yourself in public, and attacking those around you that are working instead of just talking ...>> Yes, perhaps I'm destroying some image of acceptibility and respectibility as it relates to this dialogue about Stewart Nelson from your point of view. I've made my point. Period. I'm not attacking you. I'm simply expressing freely my opinion - my gut - about Novell's weak-kneed leadership. You have decided to come to Nelson's defense. I liken this to Gore telling us that President Clinton will go down in history as one of "the greatest Presidents" this country has ever had. Now take a step back and look at the paradigm Gore is coming from. He's perfectly "right" to say that. And perhaps you are perfectly "right" to defend Nelson. >>Screw you ...>> Scott C. Lemon>> God Bless you!! Learn to love your enemies Scott. There's not a greater thing you can do for mankind than to love your enemies. May I suggest that we all try "letting go" of this and relaxing abit more. I've made my peace. Nelson isn't going to call Frederick Smart back. I've accepted this quite awhile ago. Peace. GO!!